Far back in
this blog, I wrote a post about fish oil.
Omega 3 oils are definitely good for your general health, but do they
help with autism? They are also claimed
to help with ADHD and improve your NT child’s cognitive performance.
On critical
review of the evidence, it seemed that the benefit was far from
conclusive. There was one very positive
study, that neither the authors nor anyone else could repeat.
The
following review of the literature by the University of Maryland show that, as
with autism, studies on fish oil in depression, ADHD, bipolar and schizophrenia
show conflicting results.
Some of the “cognitive
enhancing” fish oil products are extremely expensive and I showed that regular
fish consumption was far cheaper and likely to be as effective.
There is an
issue of just how big an effect you are looking for. We can all imagine tiny effects, but you
really want an effect that everyone else notices.
Monty, aged
11 with ASD, eats lots of fish, mainly because he loves it. He is not at all put off by those little
bones.
The effect
of fish oil on Monty was not noticeable.
Biotin
A recent post contained a study from Greece, where they found a remarkably high
proportion of kids with ASD with a biotin deficiency. This had not shown up on the standard test,
because the standard test is strangely not for biotin at all; it tests for
biotinidase, a related enzyme.
Identifying
a biotin deficiency is not easy, blood tests are not helpful and you have to
look at certain compounds found in urine.
As a result your local laboratory may not offer a useful test for
biotin.
Since
supplementation with pharmacological doses of biotin is known to be harmless,
the practical way forward is to try it.
In the midst
of looking at the relative effect of different primary antioxidants, I was
substituting one thiol antioxidant (ALA) for another (NAC) to see if there was
any obvious difference. I could give
lots of reasons, with scientific papers to back them up, as to why 0.6g of ALA
plus 1.8g of NAC might be “better” than 2.4g of NAC, but it is not. If anything, it might be worse.
Then I tried
Carnosine in combination with NAC and again I could see absolutely no effect.
Then I
decided to go back to my original NAC regime and add the biotin that had been
on the shelf since Christmas. Very surprisingly, the effect that I thought
might show up with ALA, showed up with biotin.
It was not a huge effect, but a small step forward, that Monty’s
assistant at school also noticed. He was more calm and altogether more "normal".
Does this
mean Monty has a biotin deficiency? It
is of course possible. In the Greek study
4% of the kids were thought to have such a deficiency, far more than expected,
and most did respond, in varying degrees, to biotin supplements. Unfortunately they only gave the biotin to
the 4%; I would like to know what would have happened to the remaining 96%.
Biotin lowers Triglycerides and
Elevated Triglycerides are associated with Mood Disorders
Biotin is a
B vitamin, but very little is actually known about it.
Then I found
the link I was looking for.
Biotin does
not lower cholesterol, but it does reduce (in a big way) your Triglycerides.
Several
studies have shown that elevated Triglycerides are associated with all kinds of
disorders: bipolar, depression and schizophrenia. These studies suggested a causal link between
the mood disorder and the elevated triglyerides.
Other Effects on Mood
Besides
depression, high levels of triglycerides are also correlated with other
affective disorders including bipolar disorder (manic depression),
schizoaffective disorders, aggression and hostility. In fact, the poor
nutritional status of many depressed persons, who often have diets high in fats,
can be improved to lessen the depression, according to Charles Glueck, MD,
medical director of the Cholesterol Center of Jewish Hospital in Cincinnati.
"We have shown that in patients with high
triglycerides who were in a depressive state, the more you lower the
triglycerides, the more you alleviate the depression," Glueck wrote in a
1993 article in Biological Psychiatry.
According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention (CDC), most Americans aren't aware of the role triglycerides
play in physical and mental health. A five-year study of more than 5,000
Americans found that 33 percent of them had borderline high triglyceride
levels.
Improvement in symptoms of depression and in an index of life stressors accompany treatment of severe hypertriglyceridemia.
In 14 men and nine women referred
because of severe primary hypertriglyceridemia, our specific aim in a 54-week
single-blind treatment (Rx) period was to determine whether triglyceride (TG)
lowering with a Type V diet and Lopid would lead to improvement in symptoms of
depression, improvement in an index of life stressors, change in locus of
control index, and improved cognition, as serially tested by Beck (BDI),
Hassles (HAS) and HAS intensity indices, Locus of Control index, and the
Folstein Mini-Mental status exam. On Rx, median TG fell 47%, total cholesterol
(TC) fell 15%, and HDLC rose 19% (all p < or = 0.001). BDI fell at all nine
Rx visits (p < or = 0.001), a major reduction in a test of depressive
symptoms. The HAS score also fell at all nine visits (p < or = 0.05 - <
or = 0.001). Comparing pre-Rx baseline BDI vs BDI at 30 and 54 weeks on Rx,
there was a major shift towards absence or amelioration of depressive symptoms
(chi 2= 5.9, p = 0.016). On Rx, the greater the percent reduction in TG, the
greater the percent fall in BDI (r = 0.47, p < or = 0.05); the greater the
percent reduction in TC, the greater the percent fall in HAS (r = 0.41, p <
or = 0.05). Improvement in the BDI and HAS accompanied treatment of severe
hypertriglyceridemia, possibly by virtue of improved cerebral perfusion and
oxygenation. There may be
a reversible causal relationship between high TG and symptoms of depression.
Mood symptoms and serum lipids in acute phase of bipolar disorder inTaiwan.
Abstract
Serum
lipids have been found to play important roles in the pathophysiology of mood
disorders. The aim of the present study was therefore to investigate the
relationship between symptom dimensions and serum cholesterol and triglyceride
levels, and to explore correlates of lipid levels during acute mood episodes of
bipolar I disorder in Taiwan. Measurements were taken of the serum cholesterol
and triglyceride levels in patients with bipolar I disorder hospitalized for
acute mood episodes (68 manic, eight depressive, and six mixed). The
relationships between serum lipids levels and various clinical variables were
examined. The mean serum levels of cholesterol (4.54 mmol/L) and triglycerides
(1.16 mmol/L) of sampled patients were comparable to those of the general
population in the same age segment. Severe depressive symptoms and comorbid
atopic diseases were associated with higher serum cholesterol levels. A negative association was noted
between serum triglyceride levels and overall psychiatric symptoms.
Compared with previous studies on Western populations, racial differences may
exist in lipids profiles of bipolar disorder patients during acute mood
episodes. Increased serum cholesterol levels may have greater relevance to
immunomodulatory system and depressive symptoms, in comparison with manic
symptoms.
Biotin supplementation reduces plasma triacylglycerol and VLDL in type 2 diabetic patients and in non-diabetic subjects with hypertriglyceridemia.
Abstract
Biotin is a water-soluble vitamin that
acts as a prosthetic group of carboxylases. Besides its role as carboxylase
prosthetic group, biotin regulates gene expression and has a wide repertoire of
effects on systemic processes. The vitamin regulates genes that are critical in
the regulation of intermediary metabolism. Several studies have reported a
relationship between biotin and blood lipids. In the present work we
investigated the effect of biotin administration on the concentration of plasma
lipids, as well as glucose and insulin in type 2 diabetic and nondiabetic
subjects. Eighteen diabetic and 15 nondiabetic subjects aged 30-65 were
randomized into two groups and received either 61.4 micromol/day of biotin or
placebo for 28 days. Plasma samples obtained at baseline and after treatment
were analyzed for total triglyceride, cholesterol, very low density lipoprotein
(VLDL), glucose and insulin. We found that the vitamin significantly reduced
(P=0.005) plasma triacylglycerol and VLDL concentrations. Biotin produced the
following changes (mean of absolute differences between 0 and 28 day
treatment+/-S.E.M.): a) triacylglycerol -0.55+/-0.2 in the diabetic group and
-0.92+/-0.36 in the nondiabetic group; b) VLDL: -0.11+/-0.04 in the diabetic
group and -0.18+/-0.07 in the nondiabetic group. Biotin treatment had no
significant effects on cholesterol, glucose and insulin in either the diabetic
or nondiabetic subjects. We conclude that pharmacological doses of biotin
decrease hypertriglyceridemia. The triglyceride-lowering effect of biotin suggests that biotin could
be used in the treatment of hypertriglyceridemia.
Abstract
In addition to its role as a carboxylase cofactor, biotin
modifies gene expression and has manifold effects on systemic processes.
Several studies have shown that biotin supplementation reduces
hypertriglyceridemia. We have previously reported that this effect is related
to decreased expression of lipogenic genes. In the present work, we analyzed
signaling pathways and posttranscriptional mechanisms involved in the
hypotriglyceridemic effects of biotin. Male BALB/cAnN Hsd mice were fed a
control or a biotin-supplemented diet (1.76 or 97.7 mg of free biotin/kg diet,
respectively for 8 weeks after weaning. The abundance of mature sterol
regulatory element-binding protein (SREBP-1c), fatty-acid synthase (FAS), total
acetyl-CoA carboxylase-1 (ACC-1) and its phosphorylated form, and AMP-activated
protein kinase (AMPK) were evaluated in the liver. We also determined the serum
triglyceride concentrations and the hepatic levels of triglycerides and cyclic
GMP (cGMP). Compared to the control group, biotin-supplemented mice had lower
serum and hepatic triglyceride concentrations. Biotin supplementation increased
the levels of cGMP and the phosphorylated forms of AMPK and ACC-1 and decreased
the abundance of the mature form of SREBP-1c and FAS. These data provide evidence
that the mechanisms by which biotin supplementation reduces lipogenesis involve
increased cGMP content and AMPK activation. In turn, these changes lead to
augmented ACC-1 phosphorylation and decreased expression of both the mature
form of SREBP-1c and FAS. Our results demonstrate for the first time that AMPK
is involved in the effects of biotin supplementation and offer new insights
into the mechanisms of biotin-mediated hypotriglyceridemic effects.
Triglycerides are also elevated in
autism:-
Abstract
We hypothesize that autism is
associated with alterations in the plasma lipid profile and that some lipid
fractions in autistic boys may be significantly different than those of healthy
boys. A matched case control study was conducted with 29 autistic boys (mean
age, 10.1 +/- 1.3 years) recruited from a school for disabled children and 29
comparable healthy boys from a neighboring elementary school in South Korea.
Fasting plasma total cholesterol (T-Chol), triglyceride (TG), high-density
lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL-C), low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C),
the LDL/HDL ratio, and 1-day food intakes were measured. Multiple regression analyses
were performed to assess the association between autism and various lipid
fractions. The mean TG level (102.4 +/- 52.4 vs 70.6 +/- 36.3; P = .01) was
significantly higher, whereas the mean HDL-C level (48.8 +/- 11.9 vs
60.5 +/- 10.9 mg/dL; P = .003) was significantly lower in cases as compared to
controls. There was no significant difference in T-Chol and LDL-C levels
between cases and controls. The
LDL/HDL ratio was significantly higher in cases as compared to controls.
Multiple regression analyses indicated that autism was significantly associated
with plasma TG (beta = 31.7 +/- 11.9; P = .01), HDL (beta = -11.6 +/- 2.1; P =
.0003), and the LDL/HDL ratio (beta = 0.40 +/- 0.18; P = .04). There was a
significant interaction between autism and TG level in relation to plasma HDL
level (P = .02). Fifty-three percent of variation in the plasma HDL was
explained by autism, plasma TG, LDL/HDL ratio, and the interaction between
autism and plasma TG level. These
results indicate the presence of dyslipidemia in boys with autism and suggest a
possibility that dyslipidemia might be a marker of association between lipid
metabolism and autism.
Omega-3 Oil and Niacin in
Schizophrenia
Like Autism,
Schizophrenia is another observational diagnosis, with many different
underlying genetic and environmental causes.
I keep referring to it as adult-onset autism. It is also characterized by oxidative stress.
I found it
interesting that two very widely used therapies for schizophrenia are omega-3
fish oil and high doses of niacin. 2 g a
day of NAC is another common therapy in schizophrenia.
The clinical
trials of omega-3 oil in schizophrenia, are just like the ones in autism, far
from conclusive. Yet people with
schizophrenia continue to buy the expensive EPA fish oils, just like many
parents of children with autism.
Another very
popular treatment is Niacin.
Niacin does
many things but these include increasing your HDL (good) cholesterol, reduce
LDL (bad) cholesterol and, importantly, can reduce triglycerides by up to 50%.
Niacin in Anxiety
Niacin in autism
People do use high dose niacin and niacinamide in autism, but in general niacin
levels are totally normal in people with autism, according to this study:-
For the vitamins, the only significant difference was a 20% lower biotin (p <
0.001) in the children with autism. There were possibly significant (p <
0.05) lower levels of vitamin B5, vitamin E, and total carotenoids. Vitamin C
was possibly slightly higher in the children with autism. Vitamin B6 (measured
as the active form, P5P, in the RBC) had an unusually broad distribution in
children with autism compared to controls (see Figure Figure1),1), with the levels in the children with
autism having 3 times the standard deviation of the neurotypical children.
Niacin was very similar in the autism group (7.00 μg/l and the control group (7.07 μg/l)
Other interesting findings highlighted the usual metabolic
differences:-
·
ATP, NADH, and NAHPH were
significantly different between the autism and neurotypical groups
·
Sulfation, methylation, glutathione, and oxidative stress
biomarkers which were significantly different between the autism and
neurotypical groups
·
Amino Acids which were significantly different between the autism and
neurotypical groups, rescaled to the average neurotypical value
Peter Triglyceride Hypothesis in
Autism & Schizophrenia
Elevated
triglycerides in autism/schizophrenia may contribute to behavioral/mood problems. The lipid contribution to the dysfunction may be correlated to elevation of triglycerides. In other words triglycerides aggravate the existing
disorder.
Some CAM
treatments currently used in autism/schizophrenia, including high dose niacin,
high dose biotin and high dose omega 3 oils may be effective due to their
ability to lower triglycerides.
Biotin may
be the safest, cheapest and most effective option to reduce triglycerides and
improve mood/behavior.
The
underlying cause of lipid dysfunction in autism/schizophrenia is the ongoing
oxidative stress.
Fish oil is
claimed to be good for your heart, but it has been shown not to affect
cholesterol levels. In some studies it
did lower triglycerides. In some
countries doctors prescribe omega-3 oil to patients with stubbornly high
triglycerides. Perhaps they should read
the research and try biotin?
Other functions of biotin
Biotin does have other more complex functions and the triglycerides may, so to speak, be a red herring.
Regulation of gene expression by biotin (review).
Abstract
In mammals, biotin serves as coenzyme
for four carboxylases, which play essential roles in the metabolism of glucose,
amino acids, and fatty acids. Biotin deficiency causes decreased rates of cell
proliferation, impaired immune function, and abnormal fetal development.
Evidence is accumulating that biotin also plays an important role in regulating gene expression,
mediating some of the effects of biotin in cell biology and fetal development.
DNA microarray studies and other gene expression studies have suggested that
biotin affects transcription of genes encoding cytokines and their receptors,
oncogenes, genes involved in glucose metabolism, and genes that play a role in
cellular biotin homeostasis. In addition, evidence has been provided that
biotin affects expression of the asialoglycoprotein receptor and propionyl-CoA
carboxylase at the post-transcriptional level. Various pathways have been identified
by which biotin might affect gene expression: activation of soluble guanylate
cyclase by biotinyl-AMP, nuclear translocation of NF-kappaB (in response to
biotin deficiency), and remodeling of chromatin by biotinylation of histones.
Some biotin metabolites that cannot serve as coenzymes for carboxylases can
mimic biotin with regard to its effects on gene expression. This observation
suggests that biotin metabolites that have been considered "metabolic
waste" in previous studies might have biotin-like activities. These new
insights into biotin-dependent gene expression are likely to lead to a better
understanding of roles for biotin in cell biology and fetal development.
It does appear that biotin is more important than generally appreciated.
Conclusion
In earlier
posts I highlighted that elevated cholesterol is a bio-marker for inflammation. In a large sub-group in autism, cholesterol
is elevated.
In today’s
post we looked at a different type of lipid, triglycerides, they
have a different role to cholesterol.
Not surprisingly the lipid profile is dysfunction, since it is closely
linked to oxidative stress, which appears to be at the root of many problems in
autism.
It is
extremely easy and inexpensive to check your lipid profile (LDL, HDL and
triglycerides); if elevated, there are safe established ways to bring things
back to “normal”.
Parents
seeing a small positive effect with their fish oil supplements might consider
saving a lot of money and seeing if an extremely inexpensive biotin (5mg)
supplement has an equal or greater effect.
The cost of biotin would be $2 a month.
The cost of fish oil with anything like the concentration used in the
more effective trials (0.84g EPA and 0.7g DHA) will cost around $50 a month and may not lower
triglycerides by as much as the cheap biotin.
By measuring
the lipid profile before and after, you will be able to determine for yourself
the relative merits.
Niacin also
has been shown to improve mood/anxiety.
It is used by people with autism and schizophrenia. Niacin is also extremely effective at
reducing triglycerides. High doses of
Niacin can be accompanied by side effects and so use is discouraged.
Biotin levels do seem to be slightly low in autism.
Effective methods of accurately diagnosing deficiency are disputed. Biotin is very effective at reducing
triglycerides.
Elevated
triglycerides have been associated with mood disorders and depression.
It seems
plausible that the benefits from Omega-3 , niacin and biotin stem from their
effectiveness in reducing triglycerides.
Biotin would
seem to be a very cost effective and safe way to achieve this, without the side effects
of niacin.
Biotin also appears to have other key functions, including transcription of cytokine genes. Over expression of pro-inflammatory cytokines is a common feature of autism.
Hi Peter,
ReplyDeleteWhat dosage of Biotin is recommended? You mention in the writing above a dose of 5mg but I recall the Greek study quoted 10mg. Unfortunately, I ordered a 1mg bottle.
Strike-out on the GP prescribing bumetinide. He didn't want to take responsibility for something not approved for Autism and he didn't want to put our child through that. This despite showing and explaining the latest research paper on it. To me it appeared that it all just went over his head. My humble opinion is that there is a widening divide between medicine and research - particularly with Autism. Next stop, paediatrician - not holding our breath.
Results of the CGH microarray returned no abnormalities. Strongly considering exome sequencing. Did you ever undertake this test with Monty if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks Peter.
Regards,
D&G
Try 10mg and see if there is an effect. If there is, reduce the dosage and see if the effect is maintained. I gave 5mg twice a day and then reduced it to once a day.
DeleteRegarding bumetanide, I would look for a psychiatrist, they have very few drugs to prescribe and might be more interested in having a new one. There clearly are off-label psychiatrists in Australia. For the GP it is not worth his risk; if something goes wrong he gets the blame, and if it does wonders he gets no reward. A psychiatrist might look at it differently, since few of their drugs work very effectively.
We have not done any genetic testing.
Peter:
ReplyDeleteA Dr. Hoffer used Niacinamide for Schizophrenia treatment. When reading why it worked it says that Niacinamide kills resistant candida in the brain. I have a son with ASD with a Candida reoccurrence that we are constantly using probiotics Enzymes yogurt & sometime Nystatin to control. I have had some candida issues since right after him & his brother's birth (he's a twin) were born even though I went right back to my pre-pregnancy weight . I just started to give him and myself 250mg of Niacinamide B3 administered with B1 & vitamin C and I am noticing my yeast facial acne going away, & more clarity for him. My ears pop an hour after I take this.
What are your thoughts?
Also is your son doing the nicotine patch, does it work for him?
Nicotinamide is sold as an acne therapy.
DeleteIt is also known to have anti-anxiety properties.
This rather complicated paper suggest an entirely different reason that niacinamide could be bad for people with schizophrenia or autism, at high doses. In small dose the extra serotonin stimulated might be good. histamine is bad.
Excess nicotinamide increases plasma serotonin and histamine levels
http://www.actaps.com.cn/qikan/manage/wenzhang/2013-1-05.pdf
The nicotine patch does help some people, but my son is not one of them.
There are some odd things going on with the various B vitamins, but only in a minority of cases. People then read about them and assume it will apply to them as well, it probably will not.
About 15% percent of people with schizophrenia or autism really do improve with high levels of b12, but for the other 85% it does nothing.
For an even smaller group biotin (B7) does great things.
Some people have folate (B9) deficiency, but the great majority do not.
It is very easy to imagine an improvement, so you have to be very critical.
Personally I think this is all unrelated to Candida.
For a year now I have been using Dr. Hoffer's protocol with 3k of niacin a day and it has done absolute wonders for my anxiety. I used gabapentin for nerve pain and it relieved it for about two weeks; then nothing. And an 18 month taper schedule I cut to 4 months with chelated magnesium.
DeleteApparently I do not respond to psychiatric drugs and I would worry greatly about using statins, personally. Niacin is a powerful anti-inflammatory on its own, and a low carb diet also helps with that.
Forgot to add that I have been officially diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome and very little is offered by medical science.
DeleteThanks for the info on all the B vitamins
ReplyDeleteWe have made a lot of gains in the past 3 years with some changes, he drinks A2 milk, Guernsey which I pick up from a very reputable farm 60 miles away this has stopped cold his excessive hunger. we do use EnduraCell every day & we can't seem to do without DPP4 its in his digestive enzymes. I just wish & pray every night that we will find our son's missing "thing" I just want him to be a self sufficient happy adult, that's all.
Our issues are not wanting to socialize, not speaking out on his own, not forming complete thoughts, not potty training & OCD rituals, he just turned 5.
We had one week last year where out of the blue he socialized, showed-off, went in the potty, sang a lot full songs, danced & said watch me all the time, we thought he was cured, we didn't change anything & he went back. It was really confusing.
Hi Peter, could be a link between sulfur containing supplements like nac and candida or yeast increase? i am asking because after a few days, nac good efects in my son become a nigthmare, with uncontrollable tics and agressive behaviour, or is he cant process sulfur and it becomes toxic for him? Regards, Valentina
ReplyDeleteValentina, I am not a candida expert, but take a look at this:-
DeleteN-acetylcysteine inhibits the induction of an antigen-specific antibody response down-regulating CD40 and CD27 co-stimulatory molecules
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1906440/
It refers specifically to candida.
and ends:- "Altogether these results indicate that in planning therapeutic strategies employing NAC it is important to consider its effects on the homeostasis of the immune system."
so it may be that NAC is not a good choice for your son.
You could try different antioxidants.
ALA (alpha lipoic acid) is very similar, it is a thiol antioxidant like NAC., but may be different enough to be well tolerated. I would try that one first. It is available as a drug and a supplement
incredible the key role of immune system in my son, very revealing the link, thankyou, nac inhibits interleukin, IL 4 production in T cells and the antibody response to candida. what would be the difference between IL4 and IL6?Valentina
DeleteHi Peter,
ReplyDeleteWe have been using NAC for almost 10 days (2400mg) and my son responds very well so far. Sometimes he says "there is a lot of rubbish in my mind, things from the past, that I cannot deal with" and this respond makes me think that he also needs other supplements as well.
Together with your article on Biotin, I consulted a nice doctor who was willing to look through autism literature after 2010 and agreed that supplementing on biotin would be wise. He suggested 500 mcg twice a day. I am thinking of buying Solgar biotin 1000mcg a tablet for daily dosage. Do you think this amount once a day would be good for my adult son?
He also suggested Lamberts probiotics acidofilus 10, 1 tb daily and digestive enzymes 1tb before meal, B12 100 mcg twice and Superbio curcumin 400 mg. Folic acid only if necessary, we have to check on that if possible, and Nac 1800 would be preferable but he doesn't see any problem with more than that. He even bothered to make a rough estimation of the amount I have to spend monthly which rises up to 175 euros. His priorities are Nac, biotin and probiotics and we could add others gradually.
Peter, an epidemic neurological tsunami has struck our family. I've already told you about my sister and her son who I also try to help. Now my niece, from my husband's younger sister, age 15, has been taken to clinic because she has had some kind of a manic episode.
Thank you for your epiphany on biological approach and if you have any comments please share.
Petroula
If there is an actually biotin deficiency, the dose is usually higher, like 10mg a day or 10,000 mcg. I found an inexpensive 5mg supplement (Swanson). I would try for a week or two and see if it has any benefit. In one study about 5% of people responded, which is more than was expected.
ReplyDeleteYou are spending a great deal more than I do.
Peter,
ReplyDeleteThe Greek study is fascinating because it reports of Autism cases with biochemistry different from controls that responded spectacularly with tailored treatment. This study goes further than others in that it actually recommended a treatment based on their research that proved in some cases very successful.
If one were to get testing carried-out much like in the study above, a GP could order the routine tests such as - electrolytes, thyroid, cholesterol etc. But what about some of the more exotic tests such as:
* Serum amino acids
* Carnitine
* Urine purines and pyrimidines,
* Urine amino and organic acids,
* Urine mucopolysaccharides and oligosaccharides,
* Cytogenetic analysis
* Glucose loading test
Are these possible from a GP?
Regards,
D&G
I did suggest to a Greek reader of this blog that she contacted the author of that study. She did just that and he is now arranging metabolic and genetic testing for her son. But to check biotin is very easy, just take 10mg biotin twice a day for a couple of weeks and see what happens.
DeleteAlmost all tests are possible in a big university hospital. So it depends if your GP has access to such a lab.
D&G, couple of suggestions. Most large teaching hospitals appear to have a metabolic and genetics lab/department. You could try to see a doctor there.
DeleteThe second option is one I am trying. I met a neurologist in the Memory and Aging Department when I went with another person. I have never met a clinician with his approach, he believes all psychiatric conditions/behavioral presentations have a neurological basis and he tries his best to find it. He not only tests extensively but also consults with other specialists. The group also appears to have a weekly medical jam session with cross departmental specialists. I don't know if he is unique or if the doctors in that speciality are trained that way, especially given that Memory and Aging gets a lot of funding and they have extensive research facilities. My daughter will be seeing him later this month. She is going to be his youngest patient. Maybe you could try something similar.
Could you elaborate on the urine test needed to diagnose biotin deficiency? My child has had a urine organic acid test and tested in normal range for hydroxyisovaleric acid, a marker for biotin status. I'm wondering if this is sufficient to rule out biotin deficiency.
ReplyDeleteI suggest you read the clinical trial in the following post:
Deletehttps://epiphanyasd.blogspot.com/2014/12/biotinbiotinidase-deficiency-in-autism.html
It does use elevated urinary 3-hydroxyisovaleric acid (3-OH-IVA)as the biomarker.
You should note that biotin does seem to benefit some people without apparent biotin deficiency. It is also used to treat some people with mitochondrial disease.
Some people have a negative response to high dose biotin supplements.