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Thursday, 28 March 2019

Improving Myelination through Social Interaction and more on Clemastine


Since anecdotal evidence is beginning to support this blog’s suggestion that pro-myelinating therapy might be beneficial in autism, particularly improving human adaptive behaviour, I will continue to highlight further supporting research.



Improving Jerry’s Brain Myelination - Hard without Tom


Today’s main paper shows how social intervention can also be used as a pro-myelinating therapy (in mice, like Jerry). I found the research interesting, but I think most parents would opt for a pill as a short cut.

The study looked at the effect of rearing an autistic mouse with social mice.  The autistic mouse shares the myelin defects of autistic humans. The research interestingly shows that it is the social interaction only after weening that has an impact on myelination. So in the human equivalent of this research, it is not interactions with Mum/Mom that matter most, it is interactions with toddler peers. So make sure your toddler with autism hangs out with bubbly neuro-typical toddlers, or has bubbly neuro-typical assistants/ therapists/kindergarten teachers.


Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by impaired social interaction, poor communication skills, and repetitive/restrictive behaviours. Recent studies have indicated that early rehabilitative intervention can alleviate the symptoms of individuals with ASD. However, it remains unknown whether rehabilitative intervention can restore brain structures such as myelin, which generally shows abnormalities in individuals with ASD. Therefore, in the present study, we used a mouse model of ASD (BTBR mice) that demonstrated asocial behaviours and hypomyelination in the medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC) to investigate whether interaction with social peers (C57BL/6J mice) has an effect on myelination. We found that housing with C57BL/6J mice after weaning through adulthood increased the myelin thickness in mPFC, but not in the motor cortex, of BTBR mice. There was no effect of cross-rearing with C57BL/6J mice on axon diameter in mPFC of BTBR mice. This finding suggests that early rehabilitative intervention may alleviate myelin abnormalities in mPFC as well as clinical symptoms in individuals with ASD.
In the present study, we found that interaction with social peers, which has been shown to improve sociability (Yang et al., 2011), considerably influences myelination in the BTBR mouse model of ASD. This finding supports the theory that rehabilitative interventions can affect brain structures as well as brain functions in individuals with ASD.
Individuals with ASD who have received intensive early intervention demonstrate improved long-term outcomes, and the effectiveness depends on the age at intervention. Earlier interventions such as ABA lead to more substantial resolution of ASD symptoms (Harris and Handleman, 2000). Although the biological mechanisms underlying the effects of early intervention remain unclear, recent findings propose that myelination in the relevant brain regions is a potential factor.

First, we found that BTBR mice exhibit thinner myelin in mPFC, but not in the motor cortex, compared with C57BL/6J mice (Fig. 1a). This finding was similar to those in postmortem brain studies of individuals with ASD (Zikopoulos and Barbas, 2010). Because BTBR mice are generally considered genetic models of ASD (McFarlane et al., 2008), hypomyelination in mPFC could occur due to genetic mechanisms. The elevated expression of proinflammatory cytokines such as interleukin-6 in the brains of BTBR mice (Wei et al., 2016) may cause hypomyelination, as shown in our previous study (Makinodan et al., 2016). If so, myelin in the motor cortex of BTBR mice should also be thinner than that in the motor cortex of C57BL/6J mice.

Second, we found that social interaction with C57BL6/J mice increased the myelin thickness in mPFC of BTBR mice. Given an increase in the social interaction of BTBR mice after cross-rearing with C57BL6/J mice (Yang et al., 2011), the restoration of myelination could be attributed to mPFC neuronal activities in relation to social interaction (Yamamuro et al., 2017), on the basis of findings that myelination is axonal activity-dependent (Wake et al., 2011). On the other hand, the alteration of social experience in the present study did not change myelination in the motor cortex, indicating that myelination in the motor cortex is independent of social experience. Interestingly, cross-fostering of BTBR mice with C57BL/6J mice during the neonatal period produced no significant effects on ASD-like behaviors such as altered ultrasonic vocalization and repetitive behaviors (Yang et al., 2007), implying that social interaction with peers influences the symptoms of ASD more than the mother’s care. These findings are consistent with the denial of the “refrigerator mother” theory and higher contribution of nonshared environmental factors compared with that of shared environmental factors with regard to the development of ASD





 (d) The cumulative probability curve of g-ratio; At P65, the mPFC myelin is thinner in the BTBR-only group than in the B6-only group (P  0.05). After housing with C57BL/6J mice from P21 through P65, the mPFC myelin thickness has increased in the BTBR-mixed group compared with that in the BTBR-only group (P  0.05). After housing with BTBR mice from P21 through P65, there is no change in mPFC myelination in the B6-only group (P > 0.05).



I should remind readers of the Bucharest Early Intervention Project (BEIP); it was highlighted in the post below.  It was a long running study that included measurable brain damage/difference cause by childhood neglect.


The study showed that orphans placed in high quality foster care not only do better than peers left in the State orphanage, but you can actually measure difference using MRI imaging.

The study showed that poor treatment in the orphanage could produce autistic children.  This would not have surprised Kanner. It highlights a little publicized risk in adopting children from orphanages in poor countries.


Early Intervention for young children with severe autism

There are numerous different models proposed as therapy for kids with autism. One of the outliers is the Son Rise program. I remember going on a course in London 12 years ago to learn PECS (Picture Exchange Communication System) and the trainer clearly thought Son Rise was completely mad. I did employ a very broad interpretation of ABA in Monty’s early therapy, we also included a large element of getting down on the floor (à la Floortime method) and be as “crazy” as him, which is really what Son Rise is all about; “enter his world” and draw him out of it. I still do this and if Monty has some new script he keeps repeating, I join in and soon he is asking me to stop scripting. I am not reinforcing his script, I am hijacking it and then he no longer uses it.

Doing the unexpected I found very beneficial as a means to diminish aggressive behaviour. I find the idea of social rehabilitation leading to biological rehabilitation very appealing.  It is also quite therapeutic for the adult. I think many parents just do not know what to do when faced with aggressive behaviours from their small offspring; one way or another, best to figure it out before he is bigger and stronger than you.

What dose of Clemastine?

There is research that you can use to get an idea of how much clemastine you might need to promote myelination. I was forwarded some calculations based on the paper below.

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I did skip to this chart below in the supplemental data to the paper, which shows what you want to know. One you get to 10nM concentration of clemastine things really start happening. Increasing the concentration by a factor of 100 only doubles the effect.  

Recall that  MBP = Myelin Basic Protein  (more is good)

Then you have to convert 10nM into a human dosage in your blood.

From high school chemistry nM means nanomolar.






In practical terms, 1 to 2 mg once a day in the evening seems a pretty sensible dosage and well within the standard allergy dose.

“Cross rearing with social peers” from today’s first study does have implications. I always thought it was a bit odd to combine multiple kids with severe autism in play activity, or social gatherings. I know lots of families with special needs kids hang out together. This might be better for the parents than the kids.

Hanging out with typical kids who are not in the slightest interested in a special needs kid does not work.

In kindergarten and primary school there usually is a constant supply of nice little girls who genuinely want to get involved with kids with severe autism. It repeats all around the world. It gets rarer after puberty, but even at 13 years old some girls are genuinely interested in social interactions with special people. Teenage boys really are not interested in including people with disabilities, unless they themselves are outsiders, like the gay ones (yes, I know that will upset somebody).  Girls are a safer bet.

The best way to “cross rear with social peers” is to have fun assistants at school. This works directly in the child being exposed to a fun bubbly person, but it also makes it much more likely that typical kids will want to join in.

In theory being a 1:1 assistant might be a good job for an Aspie, but having tried that for a year I can strongly suggest a lively enthusiastic young-at-heart NT assistant is the ideal. He/she also needs to be good at maths and science.
   
Happy myelinating!






45 comments:

  1. Peter, do you mean that the assistant could be a camp animator with a teacher profile? Next year he will be on high school and Iam planning to change the assistant. Regarding clemastine,can it be found in Spain at the pharmacy?
    Valentina

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    1. Valentina, I think Clemastine will be easy to buy in Spain. It is called Tavegil.

      https://www.vademecum.es/equivalencia-lista-tavegil+comprimido+1+mg-espana-r06aa04-es_1

      If you can find a camp animator with a teacher profile that would be great.

      Another frequent theme seems to be having a mother who is a kindergarten teacher. Such mothers seem to have very child-friendly children.

      One of our previous assistants is now working as an animator on a cruise ship in the Caribbean.

      The assistants do need to be clever because they need to fully understand all the maths and science, which many adults do not. You cannot explain things that you yourself do not understand.

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    2. Peter, you don't know how I understand you. Yesterday, looking at his notebook, I saw an example that wrote the assistant, that wasn't correct. She hadn't understood the topic of parallels and meridians and how to calculate latitude and longitude. He had learnt it well at home, imagine what confusing was her example, as he records everything! . Finally,today, the class teacher kept the notebook to review it.
      Valentina

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    3. Google Translation:

      Tavegyl or Tavegil (Clemastine) is an antihistamine with various presentations, some of them not available.

      In Spain it has been removed from the market for 2 years, since there are other better antihistamines.

      Previously it existed in Spain in tablets and in drinkable oral solution, as well as combined with a corticoid for its injectable administration, under the name of Dexa-Tavegil.

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    4. I think people need to ask at a pharmacy; for example in the US, while DayHist is no longer made, there is the same product produced by Teva.

      The US psychiatrist using Clemastine recommended asking the pharmacist for Teva. It is not sold on Amazon.

      https://www.tevagenerics.com/product/clemastine-fumarate-tablets-usp

      You need to look under all the many possible names Tavist, Tavegil, Tavegyl, Clemastine, Clemastina etc.

      I bought mine in the UK where it is OTC, but I saw it on Ebay where the Lithuanian pharmacy was shipping worldwide. The UK pharmacy should ship with Europe to countries where it is approved as OTC. So they should ship to Spain.

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    5. If this list is correct, and I think it is, in the US you need a prescription for the clemastine tablets made by Teva because they are 2.68 mg. All of the OTC products are 1.34 mg tablets.
      https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB00283

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  2. Just a question about buying clemastine in North America.
    It seems from this list that the 1.34 mg tablets are sold OTC.
    https://ndclist.com/?s=clemastine
    Just wondering if anyone has found clemastine for sale anywhere.
    This is what my Amazon search came up with :
    https://www.amazon.com/C1507-1KGBL-Clemastine-Fumarate-98-0-Size/dp/B07MJDF3MD/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=clemastine&qid=1553803124&s=gateway&sr=8-2
    They use to have the Walgreen brand on Amazon.ca but not now.
    https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00AAJV5VE/?coliid=I28BD30JH5VK3B&colid=3E5GVLNYW3O38&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
    I am in Canada and finding clemastine here seems impossible.
    I have not yet looked into getting some through a vet.

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  3. "Then you have to convert 10nM into a human dosage in your blood"

    I guess this is not a neat little formula that fits on one row of your blog, right? It would just be so handy to be able to convert rodent serum concentration to oral human dosage...

    /Ling

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  4. Peter, are you still using Sodium Butyrate? And, what dosage do you find effective? Others? Have you seen benefits?

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    1. One reader found 500mg effective and higher doses lost that effect. I tried 500 mg and it had no effect. There are good reasons why it might help some people. It does depend on how much fiber you eat and what gut bacteria you have, because that determines how much butyric acid you produce naturally.

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    2. Sounds good. Do you still think it is one of the the best thing to heal the intestinal lining and bbb? Thanks.

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    3. I think in people not producing enough butyric acid in their intestines it is indeed a good idea. You can also use the Japanese butyrate producing probiotic bacteria Miyairi 588, which may be cheaper.

      The Japanese are big belivievers. 2 recent studies here

      The impact of Clostridium butyricum MIYAIRI 588 on the murine gut microbiome and colonic tissue.
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30076897

      Clostridium butyricum MIYAIRI 588 as Adjunctive Therapy for Treatment-Resistant Major Depressive Disorder: A Prospective Open-Label Trial.
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30234616

      I think it will only benefit some people.

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  5. Peter, the mice in the study were followed up to adulthood if I found the right data about mice aging, so maybe it's not only about toddlers and kindergarten. "Autism only" classes or schools, which are common where I live, might not the best idea in case the study is relevant to humans as well. And if the "autism only" school or kindergarten is also "ABA-only", then we know now it is based on flawed research. Things in "autism education" are odd as much as in "autism medicine".

    I wondered about the Clemastine effect you have already noticed and the mechanism. Do you suspect myelination effect so early or rather consider another mechanism involved? Also, did you try any other old generation antihistamine before? I just wonder if you can compare the effect and make sure it is specific to Clemastine.

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    1. Agnieszka, Autism-only classes do have drawbacks, but I think they are better than poorly implemented inclusion in mainstream schools. You have to work hard to make mainstreaming work. The default is poor inclusion.

      The only first generation antihistamine that I have used was cyproheptadine.

      I was surprised that in the case history of the man with hypoxia, clemastine had an effect within days not months/years. And these were effects in a human and seen on the MRI.

      Microglia and oligodendrocytes are both types of glial cell, so I think we can say with some moderate confidence that the Clemastine effect in autism is likely mediated by glial cells. It may well be both types, I hope it is.

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    2. Thanks, I must have overlooked the early effect in the paper on the man with hypoxia. I am now retrying clemastine.

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  6. Hi Peter,

    In regards to Floortime have you seen this study?

    https://youtu.be/nzsMiM6l00M

    It shows 20 hours of Floortime a week actually rewires the brain.

    Mylination at work?

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    1. Kei, it certainly shows that Greenspan's Floortime method can work. In the film they show a fully verbal child, I hope they are also looking at the much bigger challenge of non-verbal pre-schoolers.

      I think it is more complex than just myelination. It is about the brain learning to calibrate/control itself, which may be the only problem in a verbal child with normal IQ.

      Using MRI they could study the effect on myelination.

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  7. Peter -

    Question please regarding Clemastine and Potassium. My son takes a daily oral Potassium tablet to accompany his Bumetanide. Are there any drug interactions concerning Potassium and Clemastine that parents should be aware of? Any insight would be truly appreciated!

    Also, I wanted to provide an update regarding my 18 yo son and KF/C8. Without question...more language and more complex sentences and trying to express more complex thoughts. Without question. Excellent intervention to add to the protocol. Thanks very much for the science and suggestion.

    Please let me know about any potential Clemastine and Potassium drug interactions when you have a free moment.

    Best regards,
    Ralph

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    1. Ralph, here is a very useful and thorough online resource to check possible drug interactions.

      https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB00283

      If you enter clemastine, then you look in the alphabetical list and look for bumetanide. I could not see any interaction listed.

      There is nothing listed for clemastine and potassium.

      It is a good idea to do an ECG at some point since many of the off-label autism drugs are actually designed for heart issues. I did an ECG and heart ultrasound recently and everything was normal. It only took half an hour. Where we live ECG for children is very common, all people involved in sport have to have an ECG, so it should not be hard to get it checked.

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  8. Peter, How does the Clemastine get to the brain? I also just read this article. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201903/psychosis-and-symbiosis-microbiome-and-schizophreniaI am sure my son's anxiety would be helped with better gut biome. It certainly alarmed me that they could clearly tell the schizophrenic guts (could it have been autistic, bipolar, as well)-- this seems so important. It sure does seem that getting that mix right is key (but difficult). Nicole

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    1. Nicole, drugs administered orally by swallowing pills are absorbed through the stomach and small intestine. The drug then passes into the bloodstream and travels to the liver before reaching the brain.

      First generation antihistamines like Clemastine are able to cross the blood brain barrier into the brain. This is why they cause drowsiness; later generation antihistamines were modified so as not to cross the blood brain barrier. Many antihistamines have potentially useful secondary effects, for example reducing or increasing appetite. A whole class of antidepressants is based on antihistamines.

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  9. Peter, do you have insight why some people mouth their thoughts? It looks like they are mouthing a song or something. They don't say them outloud. I don't think it is scripting which is something else. My child only does it on occasion. Is it a deficiency? Gut/brain thing? Is there something that can be done? NAC doesn't help. Curious your thoughts.

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    1. Some people "think out loud", so mouthing your thoughts might be something similar. It is not really a problem, unless it happens very frequently.

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    2. It comes during distress, and quite evident. I wish i understand the root and see if there is some way to help manage it. Any thoughts?

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    3. One common feature of some people's autism is a dysfunction of the autonomic nervous system. This could have various apparently unrelated symptoms, but one is anxiety.

      This kind of anxiety and its manifestations, which might include mouthing words, is treatable with a common old drug called Propranolol. In some people with autism the improvement can be remarkable.

      There are many other dysfunctions that can also appear as anxiety.

      Just google Propranolol with "autism" or "autonomic".

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  10. Oxytocin has been discussed at length here before, but here is some new research suggesting another avenue for boosting oxytocin levels in the brain:

    Press Release:

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190403095510.htm

    Paper:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-019-0325-6

    The researchers in this paper found that in order for oxytocin to make it past the blood-brain barrier and exert central nervous system effects (such as maternal bonding with offspring), oxytocin needs to use a receptor called RAGE which stands for "Receptor for Advanced Glycation Endproducts". AGE's (Advanced Glycation Endproducts) are associated with the aging process and it has been thought for a long-time that drugs which eliminate them in the body can improve overall cellular health since AGE's tend to cause problems by cluttering up cells (AGE's are formed from various proteins and sugars bonding with each other).

    Anyways, this particular receptor seems to be very important to oxytocin being able to get into the brain as they injected oxytocin into oxytocin knockout mice which also lacked the RAGE receptor and none of the expected improvements in behavior transpired. When they injected oxytocin into oxytocin knockout mice that still had functional RAGE receptors, the associated behavioral improvments with oxytocin were noticeable again.

    I don't know much more about RAGE other than what I just read in the paper, but like the paper suggests it may be an important factor in whether people respond to intranasal oxytocin or not, or whether mothers are able to bond with their children after birth as many new mothers these days have a lot of guilt and shame if they feel that they don't have the love and affection for their child the way typical mothers do. RAGE may also be important for the feedback loop in nursing as well in that oxytocin from the pituitary gland stimulates the milk let-down reflex, and oxytocin making its way back to the CNS would be important for the mothers brain associating nursing with loving bonding behaviors with her child as well as regulating the production of oxytocin from the paraventricular nucleus and supraoptic nucleus of the hypothalamus into the pituitary gland for pulsatile release into the peripheral circulation. If RAGE is not working, then it may be the hiccup in encouraging maternal behavior with respect to nursing her young. It is also speculative whether or not the modern western custom of increases rates of infant bottle-feeding whether from pumped breast milk or formula could be having deleterious effects in mothers bonding with their child for life and whether the increasing lack of satisfaction in nursing infants in the west could be a byproduct of some sort of dysfunction in how oxytocin is making its way back to the brain, which includes hypothetical dysfunction of the RAGE receptor.

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  11. Peter, is it possible that Clemastine, being an H1 antagonist, also affects PPI or sensory gating? You wrote about it in this post: https://epiphanyasd.blogspot.com/2017/03/sensory-gating-in-autism-particularly.html?m=0

    It might be a coincidence, but I've noticed some "overhearing" last week.
    /Ling

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    1. Ling, because it is "centrally acting" you can expect other effects. Since antihistamine drugs affect numerous receptors it would be hard to be 100% sure of the mechanism. Hopefully the overall effect will be beneficial.

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  12. HI Peter

    Wondering if i could bother you to possibly share the maths on how to get the 10nM into some semblance of a human dosage per kg?

    TIA

    Leigh

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  13. I use this Japanese pharmacy for activate thiamin. They also have clemastine https://www.mimaki-family-japan.com/item/detail?item_prefix=TF&item_code=002090&item_branch=001

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    1. Ted, you left a comment on YouTube about Atorvastatin and myelin.

      Humans need cholesterol and 25% of your cholesterol is found in your brain Cholesterol cannot pass from your blood to your brain and so your brain makes its own cholesterol. A lipophylic (fat soluble) statin will enter the brain.

      The classic disease relating to myelin is MS. Simvastatin is a therapy for some types of MS. So it looks like at the doses typically taken, there is enough cholesterol-making capacity in the brain. You might think statins would be contra-indicated in people with MS.


      Statins' potential to treat MS unrelated to lowering cholesterol
      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190510095059.htm

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  14. Hi Peter, may I ask if you are still seeing positive effects of clemastine on Monty, by taking 1mg each evening before bed? I am about to order some (thanks to Ted's link above), and see if I should trial it for a week to see any effect on day-time behaviors.

    To be honest it's mind-blowing because I have been educated since long that 1st-gen anti-histamines do not work on small children for sneezing or runny noses. So I believe that for small kids / toddlers their receptors may not be in the good shape to be blocked by clemastine? I cannot find any research that is targeted to test clemastine on young ASD kids like 2-3 yo.

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    1. I do continue to use Clemastine.

      There is no immediate/acute benefit, so If you want to make a trial I suggest you try it for 2 months. This is also the suggestion of the psychiatrist who uses it for depression, which also features impaired myelination.

      First generation antihistamines are quite widely used in young children with autism, who have a problem falling asleep.

      There is no research on the use of Clemastine in autism, but there is plenty about Clemastine and myelination.

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  15. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31399117/
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666379121000628
    It seems that butyrate has the same effect too.
    I have tried to use the Miyari probiotics for 2 months and my kid's tantrum has improved together with cognition. I cannot prove any causal relationship though. Also I did add 1mg Clemastine every once in a while.

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    1. Butyrate is very interesting and it will appear in the next post on eubiotics.

      Butyrate has multiple possible modes of action and it is definitely not something you want to be deficient in, as are people with MS. You need butyric acid to maintain a tight intestinal gut barrier and you may indeed need it for a tight blood brain barrier. An impaired blood brain barrier is a feature of MS.

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  16. One more very recent research from CUHK in Hong Kong. It has some very interesting findings of guts in ASD, and seems to find:

    1. different profiles of microbiota (that we know)
    2. contributed to lack of key neurotransmitters generated from guts
    3. the delta between ASD and controls are not explainable by diets
    4. ASD gut microbiota ALSO DELAYS in development compared to NT

    The interaction between guts/brain is very obvious judging from the above. However the full report costs GBP30 and I am wondering if I should just buy it to see if they name the key 5 missing bacteria, and how ASD gut profiles age differently.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34312160/

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  17. Found it:
    https://www.clinicalomics.com/topics/translational-research/microbiome/autism-spectrum-disorder-in-children-linked-to-non-diet-influenced-features-of-gut-microbiome/?fbclid=IwAR1YueBtVfdX1EkmFr45woKXJbEvejZqu7qGR3o_Qcc5mG6FgoFqG_riIaA

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  18. Hi Peter i have notice that Rupatadine as a good impact on my son the small spot that he use to have on harm an face are dissappeared increase sleep..bit maybe i would like to try clemestatine that can be' more effective in base of the study that yuo put here what do yuo think?

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    1. Clemastine has a different effect to Rupatadine, although both are technically antihistamines. Many people do combine different antihistamines and mast cell stabilizers.

      Give Clemastine a try for a couple of months and see if there is a cognitive benefit.

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    2. Hi Peter i'm using clemastatine for 2 months now i saw better sleep i don't think that improve his cognitive i will continuing until the box and se what happen i will maintein 1 mg a night or is enough 2 a week that i have from other post?

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    3. Diego, clemastine is proposed as a therapy to increase myelination in the MS research, it also should reduce microglial activation. The limiting factor in its use is the drowsiness that it causes.

      Since the effect will take months to develop it is hard to be sure that clemastine is a useful therapy. This is well established in MS. We know that impaired myelination is a common feature of many types of autism and hence the idea to use clemastine.

      The more clemastine, the greater the potential effect, but you cannot be sure that your child has impaired myelination.

      I would keep going for another month and then decide if you see any benefit or not. If there is no benefit, then stop the therapy.

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  19. Peter — in your experience / opinion, does socializing with neurotypical peers still have an impact in pre-school years? Our daughter has had minimal contact with peers due to pandemic restrictions that were ongoing from 2-3 years old. She is 4 now and we are waiting to hear whether she has gotten into a developmental delay preschool that combines developmentally delayed children with neurotypical peers, but afraid that maybe we have missed out on a critical period. Would appreciate if you have any insight!

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    1. Socializing with neurotypical peers is definitely to be encouraged. In severe untreated autism, in the early years, it is more about mixing/observing than really socializing.

      Inclusive education has a clear benefit to the parents, which is also relevant.

      All young children have been set back by the pandemic restrictions, so I doubt your daughter has lost out relative to others.

      Up to the age of 7 or 8, you can include in school almost any severity of autism with NT peers. After that age, unless the child is genuinely "includable" behaviorally and genuinely able to learn, they are likely to be better off in some form of special education.

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