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Thursday, 23 July 2020

How to increase Oxytocin (OT) effects in the autistic brain? OT nasal spray, L. reuteri DSM 17938, Magnesium, Estradiol, Nicotinamide riboside …



 Struggle to make friends? Consider Oxytocin



Today’s post was going to be about FMT super-donors, but instead we have a post about new insights into using oxytocin to treat autism.  From personal experience I can say that you really can target oxytocin receptors to affect mood/behavior; I have no personal experience of FMT (fecal microbiota transplants), but thousands of people use it for many conditions.  The FMT post will be next.

Oxytocin and vasopressin are two hormones, made in the hypothalamus, that are established targets for autism treatment. They are released into the bloodstream where they carry out their best-known functions, but they are also released from the hypothalamus directly into the brain where these hormones have entirely different functions.

Both oxytocin and vasopressin can be given as nasal sprays to enter the central nervous system (CNS) rather than just the blood stream.  This means you get the brain effects of the hormone, also known as the “central effects”.

As was discussed previously in this blog and is highlighted more recently in the article below, you can use certain bacteria in the gut to signal to the hypothalamus to produce more oxytocin.  This is really clever and it works in humans, not just research animals.  It also has the advantage of producing a more continuous effect than is found using the intranasal method to deliver oxytocin. 

When you sever the vagus nerve, the bacteria in the gut continues to produce the required chemicals, but the signal to the brain has been lost. The hypothalamus no longer produces increased oxytocin and so the behavioral/mood effect is lost. This has been proven in the research.

Gut microbes may treat social difficulties in autism mice


In science speak, “the results suggest that a peptide or metabolite produced by bacteria may modulate host oxytocin secretion for potential public or personalized health goals”.  It also appears that oxytocin improves wound healing. So perhaps old people with leg ulcers, which never seem to get better, might benefit from a daily dose of L. reuteri DSM 17938, it also might make them feel better due to those central effects.


Oxytocin in the brain acts via oxytocin receptors

As we learned years ago in this blog, you can increase the effect (turn up the volume) of receptors using a PAM (positive allosteric modulator).  Interestingly, magnesium is a PAM of the oxytocin receptor (OTR).  Many people with autism are supplementing magnesium, perhaps those using intranasal oxytocin should join them. 

A very recent paper has investigated in detail how oxytocin receptors function.


The peptide hormone oxytocin modulates socioemotional behavior and sexual reproduction via the centrally expressed oxytocin receptor (OTR) across several species. Here, we report the crystal structure of human OTR in complex with retosiban, a nonpeptidic antagonist developed as an oral drug for the prevention of preterm labor. Our structure reveals insights into the detailed interactions between the G protein–coupled receptor (GPCR) and an OTR-selective antagonist. The observation of an extrahelical cholesterol molecule, binding in an unexpected location between helices IV and V, provides a structural rationale for its allosteric effect and critical influence on OTR function. Furthermore, our structure in combination with experimental data allows the identification of a conserved neurohypophyseal receptor-specific coordination site for Mg2+ that acts as potent, positive allosteric modulator for agonist binding. Together, these results further our molecular understanding of the oxytocin/vasopressin receptor family and will facilitate structure-guided development of new therapeutics. 

Magnesium and mood disorders: systematic review and meta-analysis



Another consequence of ERβ under-expression in autism

Also interesting to those following autism research, is the role of ERβ (estrogen receptor beta).  It is well known that in the brains of those with autism, there is a lack of ERβ.  A lack of ERβ is likely to lead to lower oxytocin in the brain and CSF (spinal fluid).  In many types of autism, we know that the level of oxytocin in CSF is reduced.

If you activate ERβ you both increase expression of oxytocin receptor (OTR) and also increase the level of oxytocin measured in the CSF.  You can activate ERβ with estrogens, like estradiol or even phytoestrogens like soy.  The ideal therapy to use would be DHED.


The cheap diuretic spironolactone may very well indirectly increase the level of oxytocin in CSF.

Oxytocin and Estrogen Receptor β in the Brain: An Overview

Oxytocin (OT) is a neuropeptide synthesized primarily by neurons of the paraventricular and supraoptic nuclei of the hypothalamus. These neurons have axons that project into the posterior pituitary and release OT into the bloodstream to promote labor and lactation; however, OT neurons also project to other brain areas where it plays a role in numerous brain functions. OT binds to the widely expressed OT receptor (OTR), and, in doing so, it regulates homeostatic processes, social recognition, and fear conditioning. In addition to these functions, OT decreases neuroendocrine stress signaling and anxiety-related and depression-like behaviors. Steroid hormones differentially modulate stress responses and alter OTR expression. In particular, estrogen receptor β activation has been found to both reduce anxiety-related behaviors and increase OT peptide transcription, suggesting a role for OT in this estrogen receptor β-mediated anxiolytic effect. Further research is needed to identify modulators of OT signaling and the pathways utilized and to elucidate molecular mechanisms controlling OT expression to allow better therapeutic manipulations of this system in patient populations.






NAD and Nicotinamide Riboside to boost Oxytocin

Today we see that recent research from Japan shows that in those people with autism who have reduced NAD, they may well be able to improve behavior/mood by increasing the level of their oxytocin using Nicotinamide Riboside (NR).

Nicotinamide riboside (NR) is a special form of vitamin B3, sold as an expensive supplement.  The FDA say it is safe for use in humans.


Nicotinamide riboside supplementation corrects deficits in oxytocin, sociability and anxiety of CD157 mutants in a mouse model of autism spectrum disorder


Oxytocin (OT) is a critical molecule for social recognition and memory that mediates social and emotional behaviours. In addition, OT acts as an anxiolytic factor and is released during stress. Based on the activity of CD38 as an enzyme that produces the calcium-mobilizing second messenger cyclic ADP-ribose (cADPR), CD157, a sister protein of CD38, has been considered a candidate mediator for the production and release of OT and its social engagement and anti-anxiety functions. However, the limited expression of CD157 in the adult mouse brain undermined confidence that CD157 is an authentic and/or actionable molecular participant in OT-dependent social behaviour. Here, we show that CD157 knockout mice have low levels of circulating OT in cerebrospinal fluid, which can be corrected by the oral administration of nicotinamide riboside, a recently discovered vitamin precursor of nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD). NAD is the substrate for the CD157- and CD38-dependent production of cADPR. Nicotinamide riboside corrects social deficits and fearful and anxiety-like behaviours in CD157 knockout males. These results suggest that elevating NAD levels with nicotinamide riboside may allow animals with cADPR- and OT-forming deficits to overcome these deficits and function more normally.

NR elevates brain NAD+ and cerebrospinal OT

Social preference deficit and anxiety of CD157KO males are best corrected at a relatively low dose of NR

The results demonstrated that the daily oral administration of NR rescued the social behavioural impairments observed in male CD157KO mice. NR had essentially no effects on social behaviour in wild-type male mice. The beneficial effects of NR appear to depend on restoration of CSF OT levels because the NR-induced OT elevation was only detected in CD157KO mice, which have a CSF OT deficit.


In the course of identifying a nutritional intervention for CD157KO mice, we reproduced the anxiety-like and social-avoidance-like deficits reported previously. Reproducibly lower levels of CSF OT in male CD157KO mice make these mice an attractive model of autism, anxiety disorder, or social avoidance in neurodegenerative diseases. Significantly, this model responds to both OT and NR as a treatment.
The challenge of polygenic diseases of incomplete penetrance is that they are difficult to understand mechanistically. Multiple genetic and environmental (biochemical) factors may converge to dysregulate pathways that are altered in common conditions such as ASD. We note that one potentially hopeful point when studying polygenetic diseases is that brain systems are redundant, and thus, it may be possible to increase normal functions that are only partially encoded by genetically damaged circuitry.
NAD+ is consumed by CD38 in formation of cyclic ADP-ribose. It then participates in OT release in the hypothalamus. In our study, ADP-ribosyl cyclase activity was maintained at a similar range as that in wild-type animals (data not shown). A recent study suggested that NR supplementation did not change CD38 expression. However, in vitro studies have shown that NAD+ applied to the mouse hypothalamus leads to OT release. It is reasonable to assume that an elevation in NAD+ levels by NR in the hypothalamus is responsible for repair of the OT release.

Future work will probe CD38 dependence and the cell-type dependence of the beneficial effects of NR on CD157KO behaviour, the potential benefits of NR in other ASD models, and the potential of NR to become a safe nutritional intervention, in addition to OT, for at least some types of ASD in human populations.



NAD+ is reduced in older people

There is a lot of research into combating the effects of aging.  It is agreed that the older you get, the less NAD+ you have and so research has looked at numerous ways to raise it.

The CD157KO mice model of autism does feature reduced NAD+, but nobody knows how common reduced NAD+ is in autism.

If you have low levels of NAD+ there will be negative consequences.

I think you can consider NAD+ depletion in a similar way to oxidative stress, both are inevitable and damaging features of aging.

Most healthy younger people are likely wasting their time and money worrying about oxidative stress and NAD+.  These are the people with “detox” diets and juices.

However, most old people and some young people with autism really stand to benefit from correcting oxidative stress and any reduced NAD+.
  

Therapeutic potential of NAD-boosting molecules: the in vivo evidence





Hallmarks of NAD homeostasis
NAD+ is not merely a redox co-factor, it is also a key signaling molecule that controls cell function and survival in response to environmental changes such as nutrient intake and cellular damage. Fluctuations in NAD impact mitochondrial function and metabolism, redox reactions, circadian rhythm, immune response and inflammation, DNA repair, cell division, protein-protein signaling, chromatin and epigenetics.
There are many ways to boost NAD+.

NAD+ Precursors              
Niacin/ nicotinic acid (NA), Nicotinamide riboside (NR) Nicotinamide (NAM) etc.

CD38 Inhibitors                 
Flavonoids (Quercetin, Luteolin, Apigenin, fisetin, rutin and naringin)             
Luteolinidin.  Kuromanin/ Chrysanthemin, an anthocyanin (food pigment)    

PARP Inhibitors    
BGB-290, Olaparib, Rucaparib, Veliparib, CEP-9722, E7016, Talazoparib, Iniparib, Niraparib, PJ34, DPQ, 3-aminobenzamide
                       
SARM Inhibitors
XAV939                    

NAMPT Activators
P7C3 



Conclusion

Some readers of this blog do give intranasal oxytocin as a therapy.  There have been numerous studies on children with autism, some discussed in earlier posts.  Oxytocin needs to be kept chilled, not to lose its potency.

Eleven previous posts in this blog refer to Oxytocin.


As to whether stimulating oxytocin receptors is going to be worthwhile in your case of autism, you will just have to try it and see.
I found that the Biogaia Protectis probiotic (L. reuteri DSM 17938) had very clear effects, which were very much hallmark effects of oxytocin.  This is easy and inexpensive to try.
Some readers of this blog do use Nicotinamide Riboside (NR), which we saw today can increase oxytocin by increasing NAD+.
There are very many reasons why you do not want to be lacking in NAD+, other than oxytocin, but if you already have plenty NAD+ you will unlikely see a benefit from yet more.
Magnesium is a very common autism supplement; it is often given with vitamin B6; both can be used to treat stress.

Superiority of magnesium and vitamin B6 over magnesium alone on severe stress in healthy adults with low magnesemia: A randomized, single-blind clinical trial







27 comments:

  1. Hi I am new to your blog, my son aged 5 has verbal mid severity ASD. Sorry if slightly off topic but been wondering for a while if his autism might have been caused by being prescribed Ranitidine at 3 months old for 6 month period, for Gerd like symptoms. He had a one off weird incident at 2.5 months where he woke up from his sleep during the day screaming then passed out & may have stopped breathing for several min until just before medics arrived. This was put down as infant acid reflux causing a shocking pain. Ive read all about the effects of stomach bacteria and wondering if reducing the acidity of his stomach may have triggered his autism, i guess its the chicken & egg senario as autism can produce gerd like symptoms in babies & stomach bacteria is linked to Autism so prob will never know. Ive started him on 5-MTHF 600mg recently & seen some improvement but unsure how long to keep him on it for side effects?

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    1. GERD is very common in people with autism/Asperger's, I would guess this was an early sign of what was to develop later.

      It is unlikely that Ranitidine/Zantac caused autism. If your son really did stop breathing for a few minutes, that is much more likely to have been a contributing factor than the Ranitidine, but he would now have severe autism.

      There are very many possible autism interventions and ones that are genuinely effective need to be taken long term.

      Some people with mild autism see significant improvement from dietary changes and effective treatment for their GI problems. For them their autism is primarily in the gut, the brain is secondary.

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  2. Hi Peter, my son has low creatinine, 5.0 is the value that came out in a blood test now. I know that it is very associated with autism and neurological problems. Do you think that giving him Creatine could improve his condition?
    Valentina

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    1. Valentina, apparently low creatinine is common in people with autism and giving creatine does not change this.

      Nonetheless, creatine is seen as a safe supplement that is very widely used, so regardless of the creatinine status you might as well see if creatine provides any benefit to your son.

      There are people with genetic defects that impact the creatine metabolism and might lead to severe autism.

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  3. Very interesting stuff on NAD+ and Oxytocin. Another recent option to boosting NAD+ levels (which I have never tried with my son) is to use NMN (Nicotanimide Mononucleotide). Whether it is better than Nicotanimide Riboside in raising NAD+ levels is hard to say and you will hear different answers in the marketing materials of the companies which sell them.

    I also just came across this very interesting research concerning calcium channel subunits and autism:

    Press Release:

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200722134928.htm

    Paper:

    https://www.jneurosci.org/content/40/25/4824

    This mostly concerns how calcium channels aid in the development, rather than maintenance and plasticity of inhibitory synapses, but it may give some additional clues as to how to maybe accurately bias activity at inhibitory synapses pharmacologically in those with autism. It appears the aberrant inhibitory synapses are formed during pregnancy in the model the researches used, nevertheless a crazy idea I just had for those children at high risk of this type of calcium channel dysfunction (while in utero) would be to perhaps drive a low-current to the fetus to induce driven electrical activity in the brain as it appears that the lack of calcium function leads to a lack of electrical activity in the brain which is responsible for driving inhibitory synaptic development (this is where excitatory GABA plays its role in prenatal development).

    We are not talking about anything shocking, but current as low as what you might have for tDCS. Obviously, investigating this on mice and this particular model of mouse would be the first step.

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  4. Roger, since you live in the US your best option is prescription oxytocin sold in ampules that is then transferred to a nasal inhaler. (metered pump dispenser) If you have a prescription for the ampules, there is no reason why you cannot make your own spray. This is also the case with intranasal insulin.

    In Europe Novartis make an oxytocin product called Syntocinon, which is sold in ampules and as a ready made nasal spray. They did not sell much in the US and they stopped selling it. Novartis sold a license in the US, which has changed hands and now is now owned by a company called Vyera Pharmaceuticals. They are using it in clinical trials, rather than selling it.

    Another producer in the US sells oxytocin as Pitocin, which is sold in ampules. I think the US compounding pharmacies use this to make nasal sprays.

    Carbetocin, an oxytocin analogue you take intranasally 3 times a day, is fast-tracked by the FDA as an Orphan drug treatment for Prader-Willi syndrome. This you cannot buy yet.

    I think most products sold online in the US claiming to be Oxytocin probably are not very effective.

    If my son's case Biogaia Protectis probiotic, which is sold to treat babies with GI problems, definitely raised oxytocin. This is supported by the research into this bacteria. Where we live this product is not expensive. If it works, you can save money by growing the bacteria in milk, and taking it as a yogurt. This does work.

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  5. A friend of mine with an autistic child went to see Dr. Persico some time ago.....He said that oxytocin improves memory and should be given before rehabilitation sessions to improve learning...but his statement was only theoretic and he did not prescribe oxytocin!

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    1. Maybe he forgot. Your friend should ask directly for the prescription. You have to be pushy to get anything.

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  6. How do I get on an email lost. Thank u

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    1. Look at the far right side of the page.

      It goes:-

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  7. Hi Peter, I don't know if this is easy to figure out. But there is a brand of lactobacillus reuteri (UAL-re-16) sold by Nature's way. It has a couple of strains too. It is called primadophilus Reuteri. How would I know if this is the correct strain to boost oxytocin. Thanks MH

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    1. MH only a limited number of bacteria are going to produce an increase in oxytocin. Another known one is L. reuteri 2546 from dog saliva. If you have a friendly pet dog at home, you are likely to ingest this bacteria and produce the peptides in your gut that signal oxytocin release. This bacteria also helps with obesity, as would walking the dog.

      https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bernard_Varian/publication/313252579_Beneficial_Dog_Bacteria_Up-Regulate_Oxytocin_and_Lower_Risk_of_Obesity/links/5cef9505299bf1fb1849d4a1/Beneficial-Dog-Bacteria-Up-Regulate-Oxytocin-and-Lower-Risk-of-Obesity.pdf

      I would not assume the product you mention has any effect on Oxytocin.

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    2. Thanks Peter. Since the product is L reuteri, I was hoping :) Good to know about the dog, since our child is always petting and getting close to the dog. It sounds like NR would be worth trying if you were trying to boost oxytocin (and the dog has been around for 12 years so not sure that has been material). Thanks, MH

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    3. MH, in Europe Biogaia Protectis is widely available. I bought some today in my local pharmacy.

      Their products were available in North America previously.

      They are a serious Swedish company and if you email them asking how to buy their product, they should reply. Our reader in Greece was sent a box of free samples.

      They wrote to me offering me a visit to their HQ in Sweden, which I declined. I have been to Sweden several times already.

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  8. My child is happy to take pills but not chewables. I know I could go through some machinations but I need to pick and choose my battles. But I may need to. Thanks Peter. Sincerely, MH

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  9. Hi Peter, im trying to find a good vitamin b6 sup as P5P for my 5 year old son. Im mindful high levels can cause permanent nerve damage but everywhere i look the dosages are silly levels even if its half a tea spoon or half a pill. Any ideas?

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    1. I have never given B6, so I have no particularly clever ideas. I would suggest you refer to clinical trial of B6 for autism.

      Just put into google

      vitamin b6 autism study

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    2. There is a product from Terry Naturally that combines 10 mg P5P with some Magnesium and Zinc in capsules. You could check that, it's suitable for children and probably was aimed for ADHD from the beginning.

      /Ling

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  10. For my daughter, as with most other vitamins, I usually use the powder forms and use a mini-scale accurate down to .001g. For B6, I buy 100mg capsules, measure the average weight of the powder per capsule (e.g. 375mg) and use a ratio to get the dosage I want. In our case, I want 24mg of B6 which correspond to 90mg of capsule powder.

    I experimented a long time with B6 and got good results at the beginning but I needed to increase the dosage every few weeks, at the higher dosage, she started to have some facial tics and it wasn't working that well after a while.

    I tried to eliminate it completely but then I saw some regression so we stayed at a lower dosage for the last few years, increasing according to her weight. I also noticed that for myself, not taking B6 increases my food intolerance symptoms.

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  11. The daily upper limits for vitamin B6
    https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminB6-Consumer/


    Life Stage Upper Limit
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    Birth to 12 months Not established
    Children 1–3 years 30 mg
    Children 4–8 years 40 mg
    Children 9–13 years 60 mg
    Teens 14–18 years 80 mg
    Adults 100 mg

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  12. Hi Peter,

    My son is 95% recovered. However, he still shows some anxiety and is tense in social setting, flicker his fingers in his face sometimes. I would like to try the probiotic that you discuss here. How much of the Biogaia can I give my 8.5 years old, 48 lbs?
    Thanks for taking the time to reply. Greatly appreciate it!

    Carolyn

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  13. Carolyn, Biogaia Protectis is sold as tablets or drops. This product contains just one bacteria, this bacteria is the one that stimulates oxytocin as well as being good for many kids with GI problems.

    I would start with the dosage recommended by the producer. They say body weight is not relevant to dosage and you take one or two tablets every day. If you want even more oxytocin, you would increase the dosage.

    Biogaia Gastrus adds a second bacteria which is immunomodulatory. Some people with autism take 3-5 tablets a day, with good results. In people with allergy and autism the second bacteria can causes a major negative behavioral reaction.

    For my son Protectis is good, but Gastrus is really bad.

    There is a US Cardiologist and author called Dr William Davis who promotes using Biogaia Gastrus to make potent probiotic yoghurts, to improve heath and save money. You can also make Protectis yoghurt.

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    1. Hi Peter -
      I recommended Biogaia Protectis (drops) to a friend who has a non-verbal autistic son. The results were amazing. It helped curb his hyperactivity. He can now sit and attend to therapies and his tolerance has increased. The parents commented they can now go out as a family for 5 hours without any meltdowns. Is this an expected outcome from taking Protectis? Thanks!

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    2. Mo, that is great news.

      Treating autism will often lead to surprises, sometimes good and sometimes bad.

      In my son Protectis made my son in those days go and shake his classmates hands and tell them they were a good friend. Some girls got a kiss.

      Your friend's reaction is not typical, but it is great news.

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  14. Hello Peter, Do you think using Biogaia L reuteri probiotics like osfortis would help people that have an oxytocin receptor gene polymorphism? ( a popular one being rs53576 snp polymorphism which is indiacted in autism in soem studies). In terms of histamine issues do you think basic DAO enzymes (or beef kidney supplements) would helpo overcome that if those reactions pop up.

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    1. Sam, you have a variant of the oxytocin receptor gene. This means you likely do not lack the oxytocin hormone rather its effect is altered.

      The L.reuteri bacteria that stimulates release of oxytocin in the brain is the one in Biogaia Protectis. This is different to the one in Osfortis. Protectis is much cheaper fortunately. This bacteria does not have side effects, whereas the Osfortis one does for some people. The Gastrus product contains both of these bacteria.

      Go ahead and try Protectis and see if the increased oxytocin makes an impact on your oxytocin receptors.

      Good luck!

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    2. Will definitely try it out, for the gene polymorphism I have rs53676(A:G) so only one is atypical and not (A:A), hopefully this means I have some ability to use extra oxytocin. As far as I understand this means half of my oxytocin receptors are bad? Maybe thats a little too simplified

      The protectis ones have less cfu (100 million compared to 5 billion in osfortis), do you think this amount would make a difference or is a higher dose needed

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