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Friday, 13 January 2023

Methylene Blue - used for over a century in Psychiatry, also handy for your fish tank



According to the packaging:-

Effective against a range of fungal and bacterial infections

•          Increases the oxygen-carrying capacity of fish

•          Can be used as an antiseptic directly onto wounds

•          For use in tropical and cold water aquariums

 

Our reader Dragos recently let us all know about his success with very low doses of Methylene Blue (MB).  I think this came as a surprise to many, but actually there is nothing new about using this old pigment as a therapy in psychiatry.  Much is known about its modes of action.

 

What is Methylene Blue?

In 1876, German chemist Heinrich Caro synthesized methylene blue (MB) for the first time in history.  It was used as a dye for textiles. Around the same time, it was found that MB is capable of staining cells by binding to their structures, in addition, sometimes inactivating bacteria. This discovery prepared the way for biological or medical studies related to MB. Numerous scientists applied it to a variety of animal and bacterial studies, importantly Paul Ehrlich introduced it to humans in 1891 as an anti-malarial agent.

I was interested to see why it is used in aquariums, in particular the reference to increases the oxygen-carrying capacity of fish.

Methemoglobinemia (MetHb) is a rare blood disorder that affects how red blood cells deliver oxygen throughout your body.

A common way to treat  MetHb  in humans is to reduce methemoglobin levels using  Methylene blue (MB). Another common treatment, not surprisingly, is to give oxygen.

If you want to increase oxygen levels in the fish in your aquarium you put MB in the water.

More oxygen in your blood would improve exercise endurance meaning you would delay the point at which your mitochondria become unable to keep producing ATP efficiently.

I did some investigation and there is indeed a trend towards people using methyl blue to improve their sporting performance. It is mocked in some newspapers because it makes your tongue turn blue. It makes for good pictures on Instagram.     


The effect will be similar to those long distance cyclists who take beetroot juice, but the mechanism is different.

Be aware that just like beetroot may dye what comes out of your body bright red, MB may give you a hint of blue.

  

Improved Mitochondrial Function

One of the known effects of Methylene Blue (MB) is on the mitochondria.

In numerous papers it has been discussed how MB improves brain mitochondrial respiration.

In neurological disorders such as Alzheimer’s disease, traumatic brain injury, depression, stroke, Parkinson’s disease and some autism, mitochondria contribute to the disorder through decreased energy production and excessive production of reactive oxygen species (ROS).

This subject does get rather complex but in short methylene blue is able to perform alternative electron transport, bypassing parts of the electron transport chain.

In autism terms this means that some people diagnosed with a lack of Complex 1, 2, 3 or 4 in their mitochondria, might want to pay particular attention to how Methylene Blue might be helpful.

Improved mitochondrial function is another reason why sportsmen might want to use MB to enhance their performance.

As we have seen with other enhancing drugs like the Russian Meldonium, the US Diamox and the new US super ketone products, the military do end up using these products.  If you see a picture of a navy seal with a blue tongue you will know where it came from!

 

Methylene Blue inhibits Monoamine Oxidase (MAO)

MAOIs act by inhibiting the activity of monoamine oxidase, thus preventing the breakdown of monoamine neurotransmitters and thereby increasing their availability. There are two types of monoamine oxidase, MAO-A and MAO-B. MAO-A preferentially deaminates serotonin, melatonin, epinephrine, and norepinephrine. MAO-B preferentially deaminates phenethylamine and certain other trace amines; in contrast, MAO-A preferentially deaminates other trace amines, like tyramine, whereas dopamine is equally deaminated by both types.

Methyl blue is a reversible selective MAO-A inhibitor and so has antidepressant properties (it gives you more feel good serotonin). This interesting drug has several other pharmacological actions, including inhibition of nitric oxidase synthase (NOS), and guanylate cyclase and so its antidepressant properties should not be solely ascribed to inhibition of MAO-A. 

Inhibition of neuronal nitric oxide synthase and soluble guanylate cyclase prevents depression-like behaviour in rats exposed to chronic unpredictable mild stress

Beyond treating depression MAOIs (Monoamine oxidase inhibitors) have been found to be effective in the treatment of panic disorder, social phobia, mixed anxiety disorder and depression, bulimia, and post-traumatic stress disorder, as well as borderline personality disorder, and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

MAOIs appear to be particularly effective in the management of bipolar depression.

Methylene blue treatment for residual symptoms of bipolar disorder: randomised crossover study

Background: Residual symptoms and cognitive impairment are among important sources of disability in patients with bipolar disorder. Methylene blue could improve such symptoms because of its potential neuroprotective effects.

Aims: We conducted a double-blind crossover study of a low dose (15 mg, 'placebo') and an active dose (195 mg) of methylene blue in patients with bipolar disorder treated with lamotrigine.

Method: Thirty-seven participants were enrolled in a 6-month trial (trial registration: NCT00214877). The outcome measures included severity of depression, mania and anxiety, and cognitive functioning.

Results: The active dose of methylene blue significantly improved symptoms of depression both on the Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating Scale and Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression (P = 0.02 and 0.05 in last-observation-carried-forward analysis). It also reduced the symptoms of anxiety measured by the Hamilton Rating Scale for Anxiety (P = 0.02). The symptoms of mania remained low and stable throughout the study. The effects of methylene blue on cognitive symptoms were not significant. The medication was well tolerated with transient and mild side-effects.

Conclusions: Methylene blue used as an adjunctive medication improved residual symptoms of depression and anxiety in patients with bipolar disorder.

 

Methylene Blue activates oxidative stress response genes via Nrf2

One of the antioxidant effects of MB is activation of the redox switch Nrf2.  In the paper below it is also mentioned that MB has a beneficial against tau proteins. Amyloid and tau proteins clog up the brain in Alzheimer’s and as a result MB has been proposed as a therapy for dementia. 


Methylene blue upregulates Nrf2/ARE genes and prevents tau-related neurotoxicity

Methylene blue (MB, methylthioninium chloride) is a phenothiazine that crosses the blood brain barrier and acts as a redox cycler. Among its beneficial properties are its abilities to act as an antioxidant, to reduce tau protein aggregation and to improve energy metabolism. These actions are of particular interest for the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases with tau protein aggregates known as tauopathies. The present study examined the effects of MB in the P301S mouse model of tauopathy. Both 4 mg/kg MB (low dose) and 40 mg/kg MB (high dose) were administered in the diet ad libitum from 1 to 10 months of age. We assessed behavior, tau pathology, oxidative damage, inflammation and numbers of mitochondria. MB improved the behavioral abnormalities and reduced tau pathology, inflammation and oxidative damage in the P301S mice. These beneficial effects were associated with increased expression of genes regulated by NF-E2-related factor 2 (Nrf2)/antioxidant response element (ARE), which play an important role in antioxidant defenses, preventing protein aggregation, and reducing inflammation. The activation of Nrf2/ARE genes is neuroprotective in other transgenic mouse models of neurodegenerative diseases and it appears to be an important mediator of the neuroprotective effects of MB in P301S mice. Moreover, we used Nrf2 knock out fibroblasts to show that the upregulation of Nrf2/ARE genes by MB is Nrf2 dependent and not due to secondary effects of the compound. These findings provide further evidence that MB has important neuroprotective effects that may be beneficial in the treatment of human neurodegenerative diseases with tau pathology.

 

MB to treat inflammation and pain via sodium ion channels and iNOS

MB abates inflammation by suppressing nitric oxide production, and ultimately relieves pain in arthritis and colitis.  

MB suppresses the iNOS/NO-mediated inflammatory signaling by directly downregulating inducible NO synthase (iNOS).

Nitric oxide (NO) is a free radical which, in reactions with various molecules causes multiple biological effects, some good and some harmful.

It is produced by a reaction involving one of three enzymes iNOS, eNOS and nNOS.  i = inducible, n = neuronal and e = endothelial

iNOS is a major downstream mediator of inflammation.

eNOS is very helpful because it can widen blood vessels and so reduce blood pressure and increase blood flow.

nNOS is found in the brain and the peripheral nerve system where it has several important functions.  

MB may impede pain transmission by dampening neuronal excitability elicited by voltage-gated sodium channels (VGSCs).  You would then think that in people with seizures due to malfunctioning sodium channels, MB might be beneficial; for example Nav1.1 in Dravet syndrome. 

Methylene Blue Application to Lessen Pain: Its Analgesic Effect and Mechanism

Methylene blue (MB) is a cationic thiazine dye, widely used as a biological stain and chemical indicator. Growing evidence have revealed that MB functions to restore abnormal vasodilation and notably it is implicated even in pain relief. Physicians began to inject MB into degenerated disks to relieve pain in patients with chronic discogenic low back pain (CDLBP), and some of them achieved remarkable outcomes. For osteoarthritis and colitis, MB abates inflammation by suppressing nitric oxide production, and ultimately relieves pain. However, despite this clinical efficacy, MB has not attracted much public attention in terms of pain relief. Accordingly, this review focuses on how MB lessens pain, noting three major actions of this dye: anti-inflammation, sodium current reduction, and denervation. Moreover, we showed controversies over the efficacy of MB on CDLBP and raised also toxicity issues to look into the limitation of MB application. This analysis is the first attempt to illustrate its analgesic effects, which may offer a novel insight into MB as a pain-relief dye. 


Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors

The modulation of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (nAChRs) has been suggested to play a role in the pathogenesis of various neurodegenerative diseases. 

MB acts as a non-competitive antagonist on α7 nAChRs.

Well known drugs that act in a similar way include the Alzheimer’s drug Memantine and Ketamine. Recall that intranasal Ketamine has been used in autism. 

Substances  with the opposite effect include nicotine, choline and of course

Amyloid beta, the marker of Alzheimer's disease.

Note that some people need to block α7 nAChRs and some people need to activate them. 

Methylene blue inhibits the function of α7-nicotinic acetylcholine receptors


FDA Drug Safety Communication: Serious CNS reactions possible when methylene blue is given to patients taking certain psychiatric medications

A list of the serotonergic psychiatric medications that can interact with methylene blue can be found here. 

  • Methylene blue can interact with serotonergic psychiatric medications and cause serious CNS toxicity.
  • In emergency situations requiring life-threatening or urgent treatment with methylene blue (as described above), the availability of alternative interventions should be considered and the benefit of methylene blue treatment should be weighed against the risk of serotonin toxicity. If methylene blue must be administered to a patient receiving a serotonergic drug, the serotonergic drug must be immediately stopped, and the patient should be closely monitored for emergent symptoms of CNS toxicity for two weeks (five weeks if fluoxetine [Prozac] was taken), or until 24 hours after the last dose of methylene blue, whichever comes first.
  • In non-emergency situations when non-urgent treatment with methylene blue is contemplated and planned, the serotonergic psychiatric medication should be stopped to allow its activity in the brain to dissipate. Most serotonergic psychiatric drugs should be stopped at least 2 weeks in advance of methylene blue treatment. Fluoxetine (Prozac), which has a longer half-life compared to similar drugs, should be stopped at least 5 weeks in advance.
  • Treatment with the serotonergic psychiatric medication may be resumed 24 hours after the last dose of methylene blue.
  • Serotonergic psychiatric medications should not be started in a patient receiving methylene blue. Wait until 24 hours after the last dose of methylene blue before starting the antidepressant.
  • Educate your patients to recognize the symptoms of serotonin toxicity or CNS toxicity and advise them to contact a healthcare professional immediately if they experience any symptoms while taking serotonergic psychiatric medications or methylene blue.



Conclusion 

Rather surprisingly, this therapy from the fish tank may have wide ranging effects on the autistic brain and in those with dementia, bipolar etc.

Possible benefits might include:

·        Improved production of ATP (energy) in the brain

·        Reduced oxidative stress in the brain

·        Reduced nitrosative stress

·        Reduced inflammation

·        Improved mood (due to increased serotonin)

·        Improved memory and cognitive function

·        Reduction in obsessive behaviors

In one of the papers, they comment that “methylene blue modulates functional connectivity in the human brain”.

It seems to work for Dragos.  You can also see that people on Reddit use it for issues like ADHD. 

 

Note the FDA warning:

Do not combine Methylene Blue with serotonergic psychiatric medications, because of the risk of serotonin syndrome (i.e., serotonin toxicity).



138 comments:


  1. good morning friends, I got 2% methylene blue only for veterinary use, I also tried it for a few days, do you think it is advisable to use this product that is not for human

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    1. There are expensive methylene blue drops sold online. I very much doubt they are better than your product.

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    2. Its loaded with heavy metals. You havé to take usp grade for human consumption , otherwise the effect is highly detrimental

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  2. Interesting ... I sometimes follow this guy and he has a post about it too https://nootropicsexpert.com/methylene-blue/ . will read more about it . Thanks !

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  3. Hello, anyone who wants methylene blue can find it at the veterinary pharmacy, if you can't find it, send me the address and I'll deliver it from Romania, so the transport will cost you more than the product, or buy more bottles, here it costs somewhere for 5 euros a 100 ml bottle or maybe you want to take the one from Sua which costs 35-40 dollars for 30 ml. We take the whole family, since we've been managing, we haven't had a cold and we have more energy, so give money on expensive drugs that don't bring you any improvement. One of the drugs for autism is methyl blue, it's a pity that I didn't discover it earlier and I was lost for so long.

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  4. I spoke with two very good veterinarians in the field, and they told me to use veterinary methylene blue without any risk, there is no point in buying the expensive one, we have been using it for almost 3 months. For lyme you should I use 5 ml 2 times a day, but we use 3 drops 3 times a day.

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    1. Hello Dragos, How old is your kid? What benefits have you soon? Do you give 3rd dose before bed and does it affect the sleep? I have cztl methylene blue, which is .5mg each drop. I ordered it from Amazon. And my son is 31 kg. I was wondering what would be a good starting dose?
      Thank in advance
      Mandy

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  5. Hi Peter
    Happy new year to you and the family.Please can intuniv be used weekends only?Is this harmful on anyway or would it have any potential side effects if its used say from Friday to Sunday only?
    Thank you
    Apinke

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    1. Apinke, this drug also known as Guanfacine is used to lower blood pressure and treat ADHD. This kind of drug needs to be taken every day and if you took it just at the weekend you might well cause problems and it would not work well anyway

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  6. This blog is full of surprises... I will buy it to give it a taste myself.

    By the way Peter: It looks like Bumetanide is effective with my daughter at a 0.5mg/day dose. I suspect that BBB is so compromised in Rett Syndrome that tinny doses of Bumetanide are able to do their job in the brain.

    Next step for us might be adding 1/10 of Fluoxetine to increase allopregnanolone.

    Thank you!
    Daniel

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    1. Daniel, great news!

      Just for the record, what are the effects you see of Bumetanide in Rett Syndrome?

      It would be good to share your results with other Rett parents.

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    3. Hi Peter!

      My daughter has only been on Bbumetanide for 17 days. This is what we found so farr:
      -According to her therapist: She is less stressed, She pays uninterrupted attention throughout the session, communicates and understands more.
      - According to her grandmother: She is quieter.
      -According to the School teacher: She is more interested in what the other students do.
      -According to mom: she is connected and less irritable. She is happier. She improves attention and communication.

      Except mom, none of the above knows when we introduce or remove supplements.

      I have a feeling that the general level of family stress has been reduced significantly. We had so much more fun interacting with her.

      We have been giving her 25 mg of 7,8-hydroxyflavone for the last 4 weeks. I don't know if this has played any role.

      It may not be much of a change, but Mom is definitely not about to ditch the bumetanide and go back in time.

      I am also crossing my fingers for my girl not to go back and I hope we can see some improvement in the apraxia in the future.

      You can give my email to anyone who wants more details.

      By the way, we are testing Potassium with an EKG every 15 days and supplementing Potassium with a Banana + an alvocado.

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    4. Daniel, thanks for the details.
      Hopefully the gains will become even bigger in the coming months.

      At some point you may want to see if 1mg a day gives a greater effect.

      Keep us all informed. I will tell Dr Ben Ari and see if they have similar reports about girls with Rett syndrome.

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    5. Hi Daniel/paradisegarden

      I remember you were using cGP for your daughter. Are you still using it?Do you think it's still relevant when you are using Bumetanide?

      Hi Peter,
      You've covered a lot about IGF-1 and cGP. Do you think using Clonidine can also have a similar effect?

      Thanks!

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    6. Janu, good question.

      Clonidine does stimulate the release of GH which is what causes IGF-1 to be produced.

      In the literature cGP is claimed to normalize IGF-1 levels. This means it might increase them or reduce them. I do not know if this really is true.

      In some autism there will be too little IGF-1 but in other people there may be too much.

      Overall Clonidine has a different effect than cGP plus it has its own other biological effects.

      If cGP is proved to work as claimed in old people that would be great

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    7. Hello Peter/Daniel/paradisegarden

      Bumetanide is not available in India. What will be the next best choice any other diuretic or other drug.. please help..

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    8. Your best option is to buy bumetanide abroad or online from Mexico.

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    9. https://www.bestprice4you.org/products/100c-Miccil-Water-Pills-Relieve-Fluid-Retention-Edema-Swelling-Excess-Salt-Detox-p413853744

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    10. The in store price normally about $3.

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    11. Hi Daniel, interested in your daughter and bumetanide response. my daughter also Rett syndrome, trialed bumetanide when she was 4 (at the time we only had autism diagnosis, we got rett syndrome dx at almost 6) I gave her the med for about 6 months, but could not regulate potassium properly and she as too stressed fo blood draws. Did you continue with bumetanide with gains? PS. my daugther is 11 now.

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  7. Hi Peter my son takes very low dose of risperdal and tegretol since september it can be dangerous add methylene blue or is just for ssri the problem.Thanks

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    1. The link in the above post lists all the drugs the FDA warns against taking with Methylene blue.

      Click on that link or copy this link:

      https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-serious-cns-reactions-possible-when-methylene-blue-given-patients#table

      I do not see either of your drugs on the warning list.

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  8. Peter, my son tested at hospital and have low testosterone, normal K+ Na+ Cl- (using diamox), normal cholesteron (using statin) , normal CRP, normal IgM . BUT high IgE. i dont know why during IgM. Iam from 3rd country so doctor just say cause my kid use too much drug. but i think maybe he have problem with histamin. what you recommend ?. histamin H1 like Cetrizin ? now my kid using Diamox, Statin, Nac, photphattydilserin, low dose Clonazepam, inject Leucovorin, gpcholine, inject Cerebrolysin every 2 days. i cant find bumetanid

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    1. You using a lot of drugs. Do you see any benefits?
      It is best to go step by step and only use drugs that are effective in your specific case of autism.
      High IgE is not unusual in autism because autoimmune conditions are likely to develop.
      I would focus on only using drugs that have a clear positive effect.
      You also need to think in terms of comorbidities as clues. If eczema develops that is a warning that asthma may follow, then you could use a cheap mast cell stabilizer like ketotifen to avoid the progression to asthma. Autoimmune diseases make autism worse.

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    2. tks Peter, i am lucky have nurse wife who can inject for my kid. if not its difficult at my country. maybe i will stop some drug and use NAC, diamox, clonazepam and leucovorin. my kid maybe calm after NAC and neucovorin. so now i want try some drug like mefenamic acid and histamin H1 for high IgE. any recomend Peter, maybe prednison. my kid 4y can talk single word, have low IQ

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    3. There are many possible causes of low IQ. Central folate deficiency is one possible cause.
      Mefenamic acid is a very good therapy to trial. It can have wide ranging benefits.
      If you cannot trial bumetanide, the best alternative (in my opinion) is to trial the pediatric epilepsy dose of potassium bromide. It is suggested that Br- competes with Cl- to enter neurons and the result is lower chloride inside neurons.

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    4. tks . i order Kbr from merck brand. not medical, just chemical. now i have problem, ketotifen is not exist at my country, any thing else, maybe deloratadin... for high IgE ?

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    5. Ask your doctor about Cromolyn Sodium. This is a good mast cell stabilizer that is widely used.

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    6. cromolyn natri at my country just for eye. you recommend any thinh else ?

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    7. See what is sold in your country as a mast cell stabilizer

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    8. only cetrizin and loratadine . is it work ?

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  9. Peter, its new about torasemid, maybe help
    https://alpha-psychiatry.com/en/torasemide-improves-the-propionic-acid-induced-autism-in-rats-a-histopathological-and-imaging-study-132741

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    1. Interesting. There is also research suggesting Azosemide is "better" than Bumetanide. In most countries Bumetanide is a common drug and I suppose this is why it is preferred. The key factor is the overall net effect on KCC2 and NKCC1. We would need to know to what extent Torasemide also blocks KCC2, this is the problem with Furosemide.

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    2. guy, i used torasemid 1 week and seem normal, maybe not effect. you think how many day we see effect with diuretic drug like it

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    3. For bumetanide you need at least 2 weeks to see an effect, it can be even longer. A fair trial would be a month.

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    4. hafl life is 2-4 hours so why we wait 2 week effect. i think maybe some days

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    5. You have look beyond the half life. Chloride is elevated in neurons. Each day you partially block NKCC1 with bumetanide for a few hours you gradually lower the level of Chloride. Depending on how elevated the level was it will take more time. Maybe it is 10ish days, like for my son. But in someone with chronic inflammation bumetanide may never be able to lower Chloride sufficiently. Everything has been documented in the research. Several hundred children have been treated, so there is practical experience as well. The choice is yours.

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    6. i used combine with artovastatin and nac. maybe i will try ala and lovastatin or simvastatin. and maybe betaine tmg high dose. tks guy, i ask ơn more so should i use clonezepam low dose now or waiting ?

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    7. You have to go step by step to be 100% certain which therapies are beneficial. Many will not be and then you stop using them.

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  10. Peter, I recently learned of activated charcoal used in bipolar to treat manic episodes. I tried it for my son when I saw the beginnings of restlessness/manic cycle starting and it’s working. I have to admit I’m surprised. I never knew this about activated charcoal absorbing cytokines.

    https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3425/7/11/144

    “Given their hypothesis that the manic episode was triggered by perturbation of the gut-brain axis, the patient was treated with daily activated charcoal (a potent absorbent of gut inflammatory cytokines) instead of conventional anti-manic agents. The manic episode was successfully treated which corresponded to decreased serum levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines and chemokines”.
    ~Tanya

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    1. Hi Tanya, I am glad activated charcoal helps. It was covered in this old post:

      https://www.epiphanyasd.com/2022/05/mopping-up-harmful-gut-metabolites-with.html

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  11. hi Peter, what are your thoughts on norotropics?

    From various trials i stayed on ALCAR, L-theanine, Mg L-threonate and Lion's Mane. also planning to add saffron.

    One specific question stuck in my head is, recently saw some interesting facts on CDPcholine which would be great to hear your view on please.

    Thanks, Timur.

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    1. Many natural products, like saffron do have established biological effects. Many people do use OTC supplements.

      If there is a clear benefit and no adverse side effects, it would be rational to continue. Some people end up with dozens of supplements and that looks unwise to me. Always best to ask your doctor.

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  12. Hi Peter ,
    Does this source seems ligit for MB
    https://www.macsenlab.com/product/pharmaceutical-grade-methylene-blue-powder-25-gms/
    thanks for every thing you do here
    /Peerani

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    1. It is really expensive.
      Dragos is using the basic version used by vets, which costs next to nothing.

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  13. Hi Peter, have you ever heard of TRS spray? It’s very popular in the US. It’s a zeolite used for detox. Do you know if anyone who has had success with it?

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    1. There is a lot of chatter about people wanting to chelate heavy metals with this product. There are lots of warnings and a lack of any evidence. It may interact with any other drugs being taken. It would seem much simpler to just try an antioxidant like NAC or ALA, which often are found to reduce symptoms of autism. They are are safe and well studied.

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  14. Also, have you heard of using ozone therapy? This is becoming very popular here in the US and I’m interested in trying it for my son via IV.

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  15. Hi Pedro. I m Cleiton Basso. I really appreciate your brilliant work. It's a blessing, fabulous. Thank you for your dedication. I'm from Brazil and I have a 9 year old autistic son. I ask for your opinion regarding an observation of his blood tests. Basophils (immature neutrophils) always appear at a low count, or below the recommended. Segmentans (adult or mature neutrophils) appear within the reference, although at the low limit. Exams in the last 3 years have tolerated this. My son is allergic to milk. There are no physical manifestations in relation to allergies, except dark circles, but there is behavioral change when consuming something with milk. His autism is verbal, he already reads, with some difficulty, but his maturity is that of a 4-year-old boy, although he is 9. The question is: With these little pieces of information, and knowing so many others, is it possible to interact with allergies at low base count

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    1. Cleiton, your first step should be to check with your doctor to see if there is any underlying health issue, for example a thyroid problem.
      More broadly it is clear from the research that autoimmune dysfunctions are very common in autism, as are unusual reactions to stress. A good researcher to follow is Prof Theoharides.
      Most likely you have nothing to worry about, other than you know that either now or in the future your son might benefit from mast cell stabilizers. This is very common in autism and Theoharides has written a great deal on this subject.

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  16. Peter, can you help me buy and send bumetanid to me , maybe use DHL or something like this

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    1. People have different options to acquire bumetanide depending on where they live.

      The best option is to show your doctor the research and get a prescription. You can often even use this prescription abroad if bumetanide is not sold locally.

      You can go to a country where bumetanide does not need a prescription. Much of Spain, Egypt or Mexico.

      You can buy on line from a Mexican pharmacy. Just Google "buy Miccil online".

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    2. Peter, do you know legit brand to buy bumetanid from mexico. i see review meds mex and many guy said it scam.

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    3. The only legitimate online sellers of prescription drugs are those like the "International pharmacies" in Germany, where you send your local prescription and they send you the drugs by DHL. You then take the risk that your local customs seize the goods, the pharmacy has not broken German law.. If you have a valid prescription many countries will allow the import. Google "international pharmacy germany". They will explain the risks.

      Many online pharmacies selling prescription drugs are clearly breaking the rules and so they charge $20 for a $2 drug to make it worthwhile for them.

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    4. Miccil is the brand name for Bumetanide in Mexico. It is very cheap and so nobody will fake it.

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    5. Peter plz send me link to buy from germany.

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    6. I will ask someone I know who has successfully used a German international pharmacy.

      My own experience has just been limited to once taking a foreign prescription to a regular German pharmacy, where they happily sold the medication. The foreign prescription was 100% necessary.

      The issue with Bumetanide is more complex because the German pharmacy has to get the drug from Austria first. Bumetanide is not used in Germany, but the international pharmacy can obtain it elsewhere.

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    7. guy, plz send me some link pharmacy online buy miccil at mexico. alot scamer there

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    8. You will have to find someone who buys online from Mexico. If I was you I would see if someone at your embassy in Mexico City will help you.

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    9. tks. but you help me check your readers and find some one buy from mexico and ask them. it my last chance. plz

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    10. It turns out that it is the Swiss International Pharmacy is the one that is used by my friend. I know that people in Italy also use them.

      Website: www.internationalpharmacy.swiss
      email: chiasso@merlonipharma.ch

      If you go their website, you can see they even have a section on autism.

      You will need a prescription.

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    11. Anonymous, you can duck duck search and then go to the images tab. You will see a lot of the links from the images tab will take you to website from where you can buy. Or If you mention your email I can send you some information.

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    12. Anonymou, nvluan1994@gmail.com. tks fen. iam from vietnam. prescription only from vietnam hospital

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    13. nvluan1994@gmail.com plz send me more information

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  17. Rapamycin seems to work for my son.

    https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/10000/Rapamycin_Sirolimus_Improves_the_Behavior_of_an.21.aspx

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    1. Great!

      What is the effect you see?

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    2. Very significant increase in independent responses as well as increase in vocabulary. He also takes 10mg of Leucovorin calcium daily. However, I would suggest starting with a smaller dose than 1mg/day maybe a 0.5mg every other day. I'm still trying to hone in on the optimal dose since with colds his immune system is skewed This article was sort of the light bulb moment.

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867422014635?via%3Dihub

      Since Bumetanide high responders cytokines decrease I decided to focus on the immune system (IFN-y).

      For the GI tract crowd.

      https://journals.lww.com/jpgnr/Fulltext/2022/05000/Sirolimus__Rapamycin__Induced_Mucosal_Healing_in.18.aspx#:~:text=Sirolimus%20(rapamycin)%20has%20been%20sparsely,remission%20along%20with%20mucosal%20healing.

      Suppressing the immune system is the game. That's why CBD oil works.

      https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/can.2018.0073#:~:text=Conclusion%3A%20Overall%2C%20the%20data%20overwhelmingly,control%20other%20immune%20cell%20targets.

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    3. guy, i inject leucovorin 20mg/day for 15kg my kid. and not effect. what combine you recommend with leucovorin

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    4. For mucosa healing I recomend to check L-threonine.
      https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2018.01247/full
      The taste is sweet. I buy it in Germany. Let me know if you don't know were to find it.

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    5. Regarding Rapamycin, what dose are you using and how long did it take to see the effect? Did the effect grow over time? Have you encountered any side effects? How old is the child and how severe is his autism? How long have you been using this therapy? Thanks for sharing your results.

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    6. For the first question, for Leucovorin to work well you need to decrease the cytokines. Peter's poly pill page can help with that. I found 10mg Liptor worked well for my son but the taste is horrible so it was a huge fight to get him to take it.

      Peter, Rapamycin does come with side effects at higher doses. My son is 5 and weighs 60 lbs with Profound Autism. . I did 1mg/day for 10 day starting in January. #1 Side effect extremely hard to fight off colds. I had to stop to let him recover his poor nose wouldn't stop running(Makes sense since im messing with his immune system). #2 Loose stools/diarrhea at the end. I'm planning on starting again soon but doing the pulse dosing like the longevity hackers. Seeing if just hitting Mtor1 is enough. I saw positive results immediately. Using words I didn't know he had in his vocabulary and going to bathroom by himself without being prompt. But once I stop all those gains disappeared. I wish I could post pictures and I could upload his ABA reports.

      -Stephen

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    7. Also, here are other reasons I'm bullish on Rapa.

      https://bhare.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Yeast-and-Fungi-Study.pdf

      https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsinfecdis.1c00448

      https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abo5482#:~:text=Rapamycin%20can%20extend%20life%20span,receptor%20knockout%20mice%20(20).

      -Stephen

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    8. This could be the gene pathway for one form of autism.

      Retinoic acid–related orphan receptor gene

      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317592510_Retinoic_acid-related_orphan_receptor_alpha_RORA_variants_are_associated_with_autism_spectrum_disorder

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0161813X12001957

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000294402030345X


      https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2021/np/d0np00047g#sect1331


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    9. Anonymous, it's interesting you mentioned Leucovorin works only when cytokines are suppressed. I've tried Leucovorin before and didn't see any gains. From your comment, I'm thinking if I should give it a try again as I'm already doing cytokine suppressing treatment using iBuprofen(high dose) and diphenhydramine (benadryl) with good result - lot of awareness, happiness and energy.

      Peter, high dose iBuprofen is a life saver for us. My son along with his Autism seems to be susceptible to Ataxia and stops walking altogether if we don't intervene. In the past when this happened for the first time, he remained not walking for 2 months when he was 3 years old. The neurologist did MRI and could not find anything. He simply said "I don't know". But to our surprise he responded to Valtrex (through Dr. Goldberg) and started walking again. Whenever we tried weaning from Valtrex, he would gradually lose stability in his walking and start falling off frequently. This we tried at least 3 times. The last time when we did this again, he stopped responding to Valtrex, but he responded to high dose iBuprofen. The effect was so quick. In just 3 to 4 doses he would be back to baseline. We confirmed this with 2 trials of iBuprofen. We pulse iBuprofen as it has GI side effects. I was exploring for a better alternative to iBuprofen and found that diclofenac is more centrally active and is more selective for COX2 similar to celecoxib. Also at high doses it has PPARy activation like iBuprofen. I've shared this experience to at least 4 doctors including an integrative psychiatrist. Some showed surprise and some did not, and nobody would prescribe Valtrex. If I had depended on these doctors to identify my son's issue and offer help, he would have been wheel chaired by now and it could have been too late.

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    10. Janu, it looks like you have had luck on your side.

      Valtrex has effects beyond being an antiviral. The research is a little mixed, but some does suggest it lowers the expression of some cytokine genes.

      There are other people treating autism with NSAIDs like ibuprofen. Some of these drugs have additional secondary effects.

      I did actually try diclofenac but I found the closely related drug mefenamic acid (Ponstan) to be much better.

      Celecoxib has its own potentially beneficial secondary effects.

      Personalized therapy is the key and this takes some time and effort to optimize.

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    11. Peter, you said it so right. Yes we got very lucky to have the right interventions appear in the right time for my son's Ataxia. It was such a coincidence to consult with Dr. Goldberg and get Valtrex prescribed at the time my son stopped walking. Just before Valtrex stopped working I was investigating the stop calling it autism protocol and was planning to give it a try. When Valtrex gave up, I was shocked to see that iBuprofen was working like magic. We are seeing improvements in his Autism symptoms are also, overall. But still a long way to go in that respect.

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    12. Hi Stephen,

      That’s very interesting. My question is, Where did you read that for Leucovorin to work one needs to reduce cytokines?

      I’m at the end of a 6 month trial of it now. My daughter is positive for binding anti bodies but so far the effect has been minimal.

      I’m on a cerebral folate deficiency group on Facebook and a few parents said they didn’t see an effect until they increased the dose to 3mg/body weight, or added methyl folate. But this is the first I heard of reducing cytokines. Could be very helpful.
      Regards
      Ke

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    13. HI, WHAT YOU RECOMMEND TO REDUCE CYTOKINE ? I HAVE ONLY CETIRIZIN AND LORATADIN. WHAT YOU USED

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    14. Yes, my son was also in the research study for Leucovorin and it did not seem to work well for him either. That's when I took things into my own hands and started Peter's polypill. First, I added Lipitor and saw positive effects. Like I said earlier Lipitor has a unique taste and very difficult to swallowed if crushed and put into a drink. Statins decrease cytokines fyi,I was using 10mg.

      Then I moved on to Verapamil which caused extreme constipation for my son = #Fail

      Around that time the study on cytokine and Bumetanide came out and showed how high responder's cytokines are affected. IMO Verapamil would be the best drug to decrease cytokines period but side effects are too much for my son. Leading me to Rapamycin.

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    15. Besides iBuprofen, Verapamil and statins, there are other options like minocycline and surprisingly even SSRI like paroxetine that reduce neuroinflammation (cytokine storm). I think controlling NOX (NADPH oxidase) is the key. It has a cascading effect of activating microglia followed by the release of NO, PGE2 and other inflammatory chemicals.

      I already see good results with using high dose iBurpofen along with diphenhydramine. But I don't think just controlling neuroinflammation is the end game. We also have to grow back the neurons that got destroyed or never had the opportunity to grow, to spurt back again. I also think that's the hardest part. I'm not sure if Leucovorin will help here but I hope it does. May be 5HT1A agonists can help!!?? Would love to hear anecdotal evidences on this.

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    16. Theoretically Cyclosporine A or Anhydroexfoliamycin

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8893361/

      -Stephen

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    17. Janu,

      Maybe CBD oil?

      https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/glia.23738

      -Stephen

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    18. Janus, how much the dose of ibuprofen ?
      anonymous: so now you just use statin?
      guy, i have child with high IgE, i just tested for him yesterday. so what you recommend ?

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    19. Verapamil or Rapamycin for high IgE
      I don't use statins right now since it's a fight for him to take it.

      -Stephen

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    20. Stephen, the problem I see with CBD is nobody truly knows how to dose it correctly. I'm sure the researchers would know. I've tried CBD in the past. Low doses caused irritability and aggression and high doses would put him to sleep. There are popular Cannabis FB groups. There they recommend CBD mainly for calming and sedating and they strongly advocate for very high doses. After I joined that FB group and digging for months I realized it's not for me coz since my son is young (4 years old) my intention is more for recovery than coping at least at this point. I've tried a lot of natural supplements for neuroinflammation like PEA, CBD, THC, EGCG, Curcumin, Astragalus and even more, but they all seemed elusive. Either they seemed to work in the beginning or never worked at all or had bad effects. I attribute their failure also to my ignorance. Probably I didn't know how to correctly use and dose them. Also most of my usage is by hearsay. Another disadvantage of using herbs and supplements (except few like CBD) is a lot of them requires to be used in large quantities as most of the herbs are not isolates and always carried other alkaloids and fibers. This would bulk it up and make it extremely hard to administer especially to young children.

      Now I've come to the conclusion that at least when it comes to medicines we can find some definitive data that can be depended upon. Currently there are only research drugs that can inhibit NOX. But this research paper discusses some meds that has some effect on NOX https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3677079/

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    21. Anonymous, I'm using this dose for iBuprofen: 20 to 22 mg/kg 3X a day. I took this information from a presentation by Dr. Woeller about SCIA protocol. The SCIA people did not publish the dosage information. However they have listed doctors who practice the protocol. I tried calling several of them and their assistants who answer the phone call, don't seem to be knowing about it and they say the Dr follows a very customized protocol for every patient. I tried reaching out to the founder of SCIA protocol through several means. He never responded. I wonder why they went very quiet and discrete.

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    22. Apocynin is a Nox inhibitor. Maybe elderberry might help.

      Sambucus: Sambucus species, also known as elderberries, contain apocynin in their leaves and stems. (AI generated answer)

      -Stephen

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    23. Search activated charcoal for inflammatory cytokine removal
      ~Tanya

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    24. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jnc.15767

      This might help with nerve growth.

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    25. Yes this paper is actually in the post I am currently writing about BDNF, NGF, TrkB etc.

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    26. That sounds interesting, these are relevant pathways for me! Hmm, didn't we discuss neurotrophins recently or did I just dream about it? ;-)
      Peter, if you along the way find something that could be helpful for peripheral neuropathy, which you might, please mention it. I have a dear one who suffers.
      /Ling

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    27. Ling, alpha lipoic acid can work wonders for diabetic peripheral neuropathy. It is most effective given by IV every couple of months. This is common in German and Russian medicine but not in the English speaking world. Oral ALA does have a benefit, but less profound.

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    28. Low dose Rapamycin is also a NADPH inhibitor

      https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/62/8/2935/34164

      -Stephen

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    29. Thanks Peter!
      /Ling

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  18. Hi peter/all,
    can someone help me with a doctor contact in UK,(london preferably) who can tell me what blood /urine etc test we can do on a 4 year old classic autistic child . Biomedical Doc who can recommend the medicine which i can buy online.
    The main concern areas are language (verbal but not conversational, gross and fine motor skills)

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    1. I do not live in the UK, but my understanding is that there are no such doctors in the UK. UK doctors get into big trouble when they treat autism other than with things like Ritalin, Prozac or Risperidone. Some UK parents go to the US, some consult Dr Antonucci in Italy. Contact a parent's organisation like Thinking Autism in the UK for advice.

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    2. Thanks Peter for quick reply.
      as soon as i saw your book I ordered it. thats the least I can do for all the good service you are doing via this blog. .

      I also ordered Methylene blue to try on my self. recently my husband has been commenting on my brain fog. My son's autism is affecting me. if you dont mind me asking are there anything which will help the parents of autistic kids?

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  19. guy, what do you think. maybe mannitol can down cl- like bumetanid and betaine
    'Osmotic agents have been administered for treatment of seizures and alleviation of brain injury and edema (Cruz et al., 2004; Maa et al., 2011; Walcott et al., 2012). Osmotic agents may share mechanism of action(s) with BTN due to their shared diuretic properties. Mannitol (an osmolyte), much like BTN, has been reported to have varying efficacies.'
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6491514/?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=vi&_x_tr_hl=vi&_x_tr_pto=sc

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  20. Peter, good news about diamox.
    https://ojrd.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13023-022-02499-z?_x_tr_sl=es&_x_tr_tl=vi&_x_tr_hl=vi&_x_tr_pto=sc

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    1. It is amazing that it restored Kv10.2 function and halted seizures and improved cognitive function. Who would imagine this was possible with an old diuretic!

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  21. Peter, do you know of anyone using Ivermectin?

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19109745/

    -Stephen

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    1. Not for autism. People did contact me to say that having been using it long term for Covid prevention, they had no side effects.

      The reason Ivermectin was not used as a PAK1 inhibitor is that it was supposed not to be safe for long term use. I do know someone who used FRAX486 which is an experimental PAK1 inhibitor.

      Ivermectin has many modes of action that might be helpful. The issue is safety as it was with Suramin, but there again those concerns faded away.

      The use of Ivermectin is now highly politicized.

      There is Dr Simon Yu in the US who prescribes Ivermectin for autism and other conditions. Clearly some people with autism are taking it


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    2. Other modes of action-

      Rapamycin is a byproduct of Streptomyces as well.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8893361/

      IVM supports Bifidobacterial

      https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2022.952321/full

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    3. IVM promotes macrophage to polarize from m1 to m2.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8350903/?report=reader

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  22. Hi Peter,
    Have you used Neuroprotek for your son? If so, did you see any benefits. I was looking on your blog and couldn’t find anything about it but I might of overlooked it. I saw some research that it can help with language and I am definitely working towards improving my sons language. Do you think it would interfere with NAC? It didn’t look like it would but thought I would check for your thoughts.
    Thanks for all of your help!
    Shana

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  23. hi Peter. what other things have y come across for seizures specifically absences seizures? thanks

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  24. Peter, one article you said maybe autism kid maybe have high testosteron. but my boy 3y have very low testosteron. any wrong here? and what drugs for him

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    1. Autism always seem to feature both extremes, whether it is head size or male/female hormones.
      If he has very low testosterone you might want to check with an endocrinologist.
      In general more female hormones is better for autism symptoms.

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    2. any drug you recommend Peter ?

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    3. Unless there are other connected issues, lower testosterone does not seem an issue from the perspective of autism. Very high levels of testosterone would be an issue

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  25. Hello Peter, what do you think of this discovery? I received a box of lamictal from the psychiatrist some time ago for Denis, but I was afraid to administer it because he says it can cause a fatal skin rash. Denis has problems with mastocytosis, dermatitis and that's why I didn't administer it. Do you think it's worth trying with low doses? Thank you and congratulations for the book.https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-study-finds-dollar3-lamictal-pill-may-help-turn-off-autism-symptoms-in-mice

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    1. Dragos, I even put in my book that many people with severe autism who later develop epilepsy find that their epilepsy drugs improves their autism symptoms. The problem is the reverse can also be true and the epilepsy drug makes autism worse.

      It is no surprise that Lamictal may help some people, just like valproic acid helps in some cases.

      A brief trial will tell you if it helps. I would not have too high expectations.

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  26. Peter, I would like to know what are your thoughts on anti-cholinergic (anti-muscarinic) interventions? The general idea that prevails across the board is that anticholinergics are bad and the whole idea is to increase the levels of acetylcholine through AChE inhibitors. I got sold into that and that was reason why I quit Dr.Goldberg’s treatment when I learned SSRIs have anti-cholinergic effects. I never thought I will regret that decision later.

    When I followed the rabbit hole, I was astounded by what I found. Clemastine was the one that led me there. I found some research papers indicating that Clemastine’s effect on remyelination is due to its anticholinergic activity. It just blew my mind. Further digging revealed that environmental toxins (esp. Pesticides) permanently inhibit AChE which causes excessive activation of Muscarinic receptors and the reason for Glutamate excitotoxicity that follows. The only practical option I was able to find besides SSRI is diphenhydramine surprisingly so. It is a reasonable anti-muscarinic drug along with its anti-histamine activity. There is also Cyproheptadine. But I don’t like that it is also a 5HT1A antagonist. There is evidence that 5HT1A activation increases growth factors. I’ve given the links to the researches below. Would like to know your thoughts!


    Anti-muscarinics’s role on remyelination - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4830134/

    Muscarinic activation by pesticides: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00204-022-03397-w

    5HT1A plays neurotrophic role: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028390899000106

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    1. so what a drug you recommend Janu ?

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    2. Scopolamine patch would probably be your best bet if you want go down that path.

      -Stephen

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    3. Stephen, Scopolamine patches/scopolamine hydrobromide are very hard to obtain. Scopolamine butylbromide which is fairly easy to get is not brain penetrating

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    4. Anonymous I don't have any recommendations. I'm myself trying hard to make sense of all these with the help of research papers and this great blog. What I think is, Benadryl could be a great option when used correctly titrating the right doses as and when needed. Coz we don't want to sedate our children, yet save their brains from glutatmate excitotoxicity (which in turn can lead to cell death). Striking the balance is the key and the hardest part as well. I've seen that it also helps control behaviors. But honestly I don't know how it should be done right. There are also glutamate blockers which I will explore if this attempt fails.

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    5. Here you go Janu,

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8497287/#!po=18.6869

      -Stephen

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  27. Janu,

    Curious your thoughts on this. Aldehyde toxicity

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4910734/#__ffn_sectitle

    -Stephen

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    1. Looks like it definitely can play a role. Interestingly the paper talks about SSADH deficiency. Myself, my ASD son and NT daughter, all three of us carry this mutation and I can relate to the conditions presented in SSADH deficiency. It is where the GABA levels are elevated. All of us get easily fatigued. I myself suffer from excessive sleeping and need stimulants like coffee to run the day through. My son also used to over sleep with long napping hours. This is also a reason why I stay away from any GABA increasing interventions as well as AEDs. It’s funny long before I even knew about this when my friends would try to coerce me to drink, I would refuse and tell them that I already feel drunk and I don’t need it.

      My son has been taking a lot of the micronutrients discussed in the paper for a long time. It is not any game changer but I still give them as supports. Not sure what role it plays in loss of neurons, synapses and myelin which I think are the killers.

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    2. Hello, has anyone tried disulfiram in a low dose of 30-60mg? It seems that it has some extraordinary effects, especially related to the aldehyde in the gut, it has an anti-candida effect and an anxiolytic effect. It seems that intestinal dysbiosis in autism plays a major role, for 70 % of symptoms.

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    3. Janus, if myelin is problem maybe you should try clemastine , SAMe, N Glucomisan or ALA.

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    4. Dragos did you notice any Herx reaction with the antabuse?

      -Stephen

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    5. Janu,

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24867080/

      Maybe one day.

      -Stephen

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    6. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35500829/#:~:text=autism%20disease%20model-,Supplementation%20with%20selenium%20attenuates%20autism%2Dlike%20behaviors%20and%20improves%20oxidative,J%20Nutr%20Biochem.

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    7. Thank you! Selenium is also been researched for Rett

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    8. Antabuse- Potent autophagy drug

      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41514-020-0046-6

      Maybe protects from lipotoxicity

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9598797/

      -stephen

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    9. Rapamycin and lipotoxicity

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19372632/

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  28. More fun facts about Antabuse

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5727346/

    -stephen

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  29. Hi Peter,
    I hate to hijack this thread back to the subject of the original article. But I’ve heard that Methylene blue also works on the NOS cycle. I’ve heard of some parents using Nitric Oxide body building supplements on children who experience giddy laughter with positive results. Could methylene blue do the same?
    Regards Ke

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    1. Methylene blue reduces nitric oxide and so leads to vasoconstriction and higher blood pressure with reduced blood flow. So it is the opposite effect to what a body builder would want.

      The dose used by Dragos is so small I doubt there is a measurable effect on his son's blood pressure.

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    2. Peter, my kid laught every night. what drug help?

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  30. The only MB i can find is for veterinary use amd its only says 10ml in 50 litetre of water for fish care
    Any idea how much woukd do for humans depending on that dose

    I would really appreciate any answers . I am desperate

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  31. Hi Peter, can I take methylene blue together with antidepressants, in particular sertraline or escitalopram? I will take melylene blue for the treatment of borreliosis, I have been taking antidepressants for a long time.

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    1. Unfortunately there is a condition called serotonin syndrome which can even be fatal. You should not combine these drugs. If you want to take methylene blue you would need to stop taking the antidepressants for 2 weeks before starting methylene blue.

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