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Thursday, 5 October 2023

The Guardian of the Genome – the role of P53 in Cancer Prevention and in increasing/decreasing Autistic Behaviors



 

The p53 protein is called the guardian of the genome because it plays a critical role in maintaining genomic stability. It does this by surveying the genome for signs of DNA damage. If p53 detects DNA damage, it activates a number of different cellular responses to prevent the damaged cell from dividing and passing on that damage. These responses can include:

  • p53 can halt the cell cycle giving the cell time to repair the damaged DNA.
  • p53 can activate genes that are involved in DNA repair.
  • If the DNA damage cannot be repaired, p53 can trigger cell death.

p53 protects your genome by preventing damaged cells from dividing and passing on DNA damage.

 

What about p53 and autism?

We have seen many times that cancer genes overlap with autism genes; that is the case today with p53. The protein p53 acts like a transcription factor turning on or off key genes in the brain that affect learning and behavior. 


Protein p53’s Role in Autism-like Behavior and Memory

Scientists have discovered a direct link between the protein p53 and autism-like behavior in mice. The researchers studied the effects of manipulating p53 levels in the mouse hippocampus.

Reduced levels resulted in repetitive behavior, diminished sociability, and impaired learning, especially in male mice. This pivotal work uncovers the intricate role of p53 in neurodevelopmental disorders like autism.

Key Facts:

1.     Lowered hippocampal p53 levels in mice led to repetitive behavior, decreased sociability, and hindered hippocampus-dependent learning.

2.     Elevated p53 levels were observed during periods of enhanced communication between hippocampal neurons, related to positive learning outcomes.

3.     Previous research from 2018 identified p53’s significant role in irregular brain cell activity seen in both ASD and epilepsy.

 

In this study, Tsai and his colleagues lowered hippocampal p53 levels in mice, looking for changes in gene expressions related to behavior. They observed that the decreased p53 levels: 

·        Promoted repetitive behavior in mice.

·        Reduced sociability in mice.

·        Impaired hippocampus-dependent learning and memory, especially in male mice.

The researchers also observed that p53 levels were elevated after a period of active communication between hippocampal neurons called long-term potentiation. Flexible neuron firing — known as plasticity — is related to positive learning and memory outcomes. 

In a 2018 study, Tsai and his colleagues identified p53 as a key protein involved in the irregular brain cell activity seen in ASD and epilepsy. In future studies, they aim to explore how p53 coordinates the expression of those autism-linked genes to guide behavior. 

 

The full paper: 

Tumor suppressor p53 modulates activity-dependent synapse strengthening, autism-like behavior and hippocampus-dependent learning

Synaptic potentiation underlies various forms of behavior and depends on modulation by multiple activity-dependent transcription factors to coordinate the expression of genes necessary for sustaining synaptic transmission. Our current study identified the tumor suppressor p53 as a novel transcription factor involved in this process. We first revealed that p53 could be elevated upon chemically induced long-term potentiation (cLTP) in cultured primary neurons. By knocking down p53 in neurons, we further showed that p53 is required for cLTP-induced elevation of surface GluA1 and GluA2 subunits of α-amino-3-hydroxy-5-methyl-4-isoxazolepropionic acid receptor (AMPAR). Because LTP is one of the principal plasticity mechanisms underlying behaviors, we employed forebrain-specific knockdown of p53 to evaluate the role of p53 in behavior. Our results showed that, while knocking down p53 in mice does not alter locomotion or anxiety-like behavior, it significantly promotes repetitive behavior and reduces sociability in mice of both sexes. In addition, knocking down p53 also impairs hippocampal LTP and hippocampus-dependent learning and memory. Most importantly, these learning-associated defects are more pronounced in male mice than in female mice, suggesting a sex-specific role of p53 in these behaviors. Using RNA sequencing (RNAseq) to identify p53-associated genes in the hippocampus, we showed that knocking down p53 up- or down-regulates multiple genes with known functions in synaptic plasticity and neurodevelopment. Altogether, our study suggests p53 as an activity-dependent transcription factor that mediates the surface expression of AMPAR, permits hippocampal synaptic plasticity, represses autism-like behavior, and promotes hippocampus-dependent learning and memory.

  

How to upregulate p53?

It is important to note that increasing p53 levels does not guarantee that p53 will be activated.

Researchers are still in the early stages of developing drugs that can specifically activate p53.

There are a number of food products that have been shown to increase p53 levels in cells, such as cruciferous vegetables like broccoli.

If you refer to the excellent Gene Cards resource, you will find that very many drugs can help activate p53. Almost 500 are listed – too many for me to review here.


https://www.genecards.org/cgi-bin/carddisp.pl?gene=TP53

 

One example is the old antihistamine Clemastine that has been recommended in this blog, for completely different reasons. A paper in 2023 suggests “Repurposing Clemastine to Target Glioblastoma (brain cancer)”.

Indole-3-carbinol (I3C) gets listed as does Epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG).

I have mentioned previously that I3C is one reason (unrelated to sulforaphane) that broccoli can be beneficial in some autism.

The last time I mentioned EGCG, a catechin found in green tea, a doctor reader contacted me to tell me that he has taken it for 20 years for its antiangiogenic properties. Antiangiogenic means that something prevents or slows down the growth of new blood vessels. Cancer cells need a blood supply to grow and spread. They produce proteins called angiogenic factors, which stimulate the growth of new blood vessels. Antiangiogenic drugs work by blocking the effects of angiogenic factors or by targeting the cells that produce them. This can starve cancer cells of the blood they need to grow and spread.  It seems to have worked well for our reader!

We have seen that EGCG has been proposed to treat girls with Rett syndrome.

EGCG has been shown to have a number of beneficial effects in cells and animal models of Rett syndrome. For example, EGCG has been shown to: 

·        Increase levels of the p53 tumor suppressor protein

·        Reduce oxidative stress

·        Improve mitochondrial function

·        Promote synaptic plasticity

·        Protect neurons from damage

One of our readers finds that Broccoli powder (Broccomax) provides a boost to his daughter with Rett syndrome. Is it the sulforaphane or it the Indole-3-carbinol (I3C)? My bet would be on the I3C from the broccoli.  You can buy I3C itself.

 

Conclusion

More p53 please!

Eating well is much more than just about vitamins.  Eating all those healthy foods mentioned above that many people avoid will boost your p53 levels.

Ultimately there will be an expensive new drug to boost p53 in cancer patients.

Very many old drugs do have secondary effects that include boosting or activating p53.

Curcumin, not surprisingly, boosts p53 and helps protect people of Indian origin from cancer via their traditional diet.

Genistein, resveratrol, EGCG, broccoli powder are all supplements that boost p53.

It is nice to see that Clemastine, my favorite old antihistamine that may promote myelination in some, stabilize activated microglia in some, many also increase p53 sufficiently to be seen as a potential anti-cancer therapy.

Maybe keep an eye out for Dr Tsai, particularly if you are interested in Fragile X or p53. Here he is: 

https://mcb.illinois.edu/directory/profile/nptsai






54 comments:

  1. Perfect timing Peter, I just read this yesterday.

    Ethacrynic acid can activate the growth inhibitor p53 and inhibit tumor growth, indicating its potential as a therapeutic agent for cancer treatment.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10094867/#:~:text=Thus%2C%20ECA%20can%20activate%20the,therapeutic%20agent%20for%20cancer%20treatment

    Stephen

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  2. Speaking of myelination in autism, my autistic son has a lot of snp's related to multiple sclerosis so I started to give him nAcetylGlucosamine to hopefully promote myelination, as indicated in a recent study .

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7762951/#:~:text=N%2Dacetylglucosamine%20drives%20myelination%20by%20triggering%20oligodendrocyte%20precursor%20cell%20differentiation,-Michael%20Sy%2C1

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    1. ANY EFFECT BEKAH?

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    2. No noticable affect from the nAcetylGlucosamine, but I didn't really expect a short term affect, but hopefully there will be a long term one if myelination does get repaired.

      Something I tried for him recently which surprised me with nice immediate benefit was D-Ribose. It gave him more energy, and for some reason he started to pretend play a whole lot more. I started him on it due to a homozygous snp he has on a gene which, when mutated, can cause deficiency that's treated with d ribose sugar. I believe it's supposed to be very important for producing atp and intracellular energy.

      I've been treating him with different things for the past 5 months, and I hear from others that it's quite shocking his improvement. Betaine and folinic acid are key players for him.

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    3. He also has noticable benefits with agmatine, Coq10 and MCT oil. I haven't been able to trial any of the prescriptions mentioned in the blog such as bumetanide

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    4. tks. about nag, u sure its n acetyl glucosamine, or glucosamine sulfate good for myelin ?

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    5. Hi Bekah.. may I know the dosage of nAcetylGlucosamine.. why havent you try clemastine fumarate..which is the better one?

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    6. The study I found definitely refers to N Acetyl Glucosamine. For dosage, I typically go with half the adult dose, so in this case I give him 1/4 teaspoon. I add it to a powder mixture that I stir into his lemonade. He likes the taste.

      The only reason I didn't go with clementines is because a prescription is required.

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    7. *Clemastine not clementines

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    8. In Europe Clemastine is OTC. In the Baltic states (Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia) it is sold online by local pharmacies cheaply. You may find one that is happy to ship it outside Europe. It is a pretty basic hay fever medication, now found to have other benefits.

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    9. Oh wow, I will check it out. Thank you!

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    10. It's interesting that females are more likely to have MS, and males more likely to have Autism. Possibly sex causes the body to respond differently to a similar cause.

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    11. HI, I CAN BUY CLEMASTINE FROM OLD SOVIET COUNTRY LIKE LITVA AND LATVIA, I DONT KNOW. SO HOW MUCH THE DOSE OF CLEMASTINE PER KG YOU RECOMMEND ?

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    12. Hi Bekah, so 1/4 teaspoon like 0,8 g. its too much for young kid ?

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    13. Clemastine is a first generation antihistamine drug, which is good because it can cross into the brain. The downside is that because it crosses into the brain the antihistamine effect makes you sleepy.
      The compromise is to only give it in the evening and to use the regular allergy dose for the child's weight on the package.
      In Europe the drug is called Tavegil/Tavegyl.

      https://www.stada.com/products/consumer-healthcare-products/other/tavegyl

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    14. Peter clemastine inhibit cholingeric , and kali bromide same. what should we supply ? cholin and citicolin maybe ?

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    15. Taking choline to help boost acetylcholine would be a good idea if you take a drug long term that has anticholinergic side effects. This is particularly true in people with lower levels of acetylcholine in their brain, which mainly means older people.

      In old people anticholinergic drugs increase the chance of dementia. This makes perfect sense.

      People with severe autism usually do not live long enough to get dementia.

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    16. i mean when you used postassium bromide and clemastine, did you use any supplement for cholingeric system ?

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    17. I did not use supplements to boost the cholinergic system, but this effect is one reason that I did not continue with clemastine into adulthood. In our case clemastine did seem to play a role in cognitive development and it was taken for a few years.

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  3. Thanks Peter, you make the hardcore science a walk in the park!
    I've stumbled over p53 numerous times over the years, but never bothered to understand what it really does. Now all I need to think of is that litte knight and I'll remember. :-)
    /Ling

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  4. Thank you Peter for the fascinating information, as always you make it easy to understand.
    My 20yr old son has severe autism and SLD, strangely he has always craved broccoli either raw or cooked from a very young age, makes me wonder if he instinctively knows what his body needs.

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  5. Hey Peter ! I've been binge watching all your posts for a while now and I gathered some treatments for asperger's. From many stuff I tried are baclofen, pentoxyifiline, cyproheptadine, ibudilast, biogaia, low dose LSD, mirtazapine and igf 1, even agmatine None of them made a difference for my social skills problem . What other options someone with asperger have I am quite desperate to find somethong that really works. Like a game changer I run out of options. I have an IQ problem as well I think, I often get comments from people that I am quite "slow". Bumetanide could help? Or DMF?

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    1. If you can follow many of my blogs, I doubt you have an IQ problem.

      To my surprise, some Aspies do benefit from bumetanide. Give it a try.

      Low dose Daxas/roflumilast may very well have a positive effect, both cognitive and sensory.

      DMF is immunomodulatory and made my son and others hyper-aware. That might be a good thing for some but bad for others.

      The issue with social skills and engagement is very common. Many Aspies use things like low dose Psilocybin, which makes perfect sense since it affects the 5-HT2A receptor.

      Some studies have found that people with Asperger's have reduced levels of 5-HT2A receptors in certain areas of the brain. Other studies have found that people with Asperger's have abnormalities in the way that their 5-HT2A receptors function.

      In some countries Psilocybin is perfectly legal. Low dose means before it gives the psychedelic effects.

      I expect Aspies share tips about this on Reddit.

      I expect the dosage is important and how long you take it for. I would not assume that because your previous LSD trial failed you can rule out 5-HT2A.

      I was amazed that Atorvastatin helped how at least one Aspie feels. I would never have expected that. I do not think the benefit was social skills, but if it makes you feel better then it is relevant.

      You could also try something really basic like any SSRI to increase serotonin levels.

      One study found that fluoxetine/Prozac increased the number of 5-HT2A receptors in the prefrontal cortex of rats. Maybe it does in humans.

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    2. NAC had a big effect on me.
      I had severe autism without intellectual disability (diagnosed as Asperger). I was suffering greatly. Since NAC i have maybe still 60-65% of my autism. Almost not suffering at all.
      Since 2 weeks i'm taking Atorvastatin, but i don't know if it has an effect.
      On the 3rd day of Atorvastatin, i decided to get a job by myself - but that could also be, because my mother told me on that day, that my uncle won't take me to a job soon like he said, and because my mother shouted/talked to me, why i don't get help (that i don't need), and that my idea to get in contact with people from my school is wrong - maybe that's why i decided to take action and get a job by myself right away.
      Few days later, i couldn' take it anymore and decided to ring at the door of a person from my school (to get the e-mail address).
      Deciding to ring at the door and deciding to get a job by myself right away are all the possible effects of Atorvastatin on me that i know of. (I still haven't done those 2 things, but i'm close to ringing at the door, and want to have a social job, but don't know if i can do it)
      Should i still take Atorvastatin? Is it possible that it has no effect on me?
      (The effect is supposed to be: New behaviours involving initiative, reduce inhibition, develop spontaneity, reducing cognitive inhibition)

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    3. Stefan, what I call "cognitive inhibition" would definitely restrict you in daily life. It is really up to you to decide if Atorvastatin removes this barrier in your case. It looks possible. The way to check is to stop taking it and see if your behavior regresses.

      It is much easier for someone else to measure the effect than to have to do it yourself. It is hard to find an objective observer. Some mothers are too emotional to be objective, others are very objective.

      I suggest you wait until you have got the new job before stopping the Atorvastatin.

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    4. I take Bumetanide now. I wanted to take 400mg potassium every second day. I forgot to take the potassium on said second day. On the third day of bumetanide without potassium i had big potassium defficiency symptoms: Headache, tired as hell for an hour, moved the arm and the muscle didnt work and hurt for a minute. I took 400mg potassium and the headache was gone too after an hour.
      Should i take 400mg potassium every second day or every day or even more?

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    5. Take the potassium with the bumetanide. That means every day.

      Also add potassium to your diet. Eating bananas is a good choice. Adults need about 3 000mg a day of potassium. Food is the best source.

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  6. Hi Peter, great work as always, thank you! I have just figured out that my son's KDM5B mutation is directly linked to p53: "KDM5B deficiency disengages the DNA repair process, promotes spontaneous DNA damage, activates p53 signaling, and sensitizes cells to genotoxic insults". As my son is an extremely picky eater, I think we will try clemastine first... Will let you know how it works...We are also fans of bumetanide, following your advice, have been using is for some years now... Thanks again so much for all your great research!

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  7. Hi Peter, have you seen this research/patent:

    https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2022087176A1/en

    It groups couples of treatment options (suramin, berberine, emodin, etc) under umbrella of antipurinergic treatment. Any thoughts on this?

    I have bought Emodin (it says cortisol blocker on the supplement pack) and thinking to give it a try. I will keep everyone posted on the results.

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    1. Seems like patent application for every possible theory out there in case something works.

      From Naviaux work, seems like a large number of “modern” disease (and mostly chronic) have roots at the mitochondria.

      I’m very curious about the emodin, I’m really thinking to give it a try, however I’m interested to know how how really affects the bowel movements.

      Any reader has any early feedback ?

      S.B.

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    2. The patent also lists berberine and tangeritin.

      Some people with autism do respond well to berberine.

      Many years ago I proposed an OTC product called Sytrinol.

      The primary flavones in Sytrinol are Nobiletin are Tangeretin.

      Many people found a benefit from Sytrinol, but they only last for a few days.

      The route cause of what Naviaux thinks is going wrong in autism, chronic fatigue syndrome etc is ATP leaking from cells, this then triggers the cell danger response which triggers all the problems.

      https://www.epiphanyasd.com/2021/07/leaky-atp-from-either-mitochondria-or.html

      Suramin is to plug the leaks, in effect.

      The alternative way of plugging the leak might be a Parkinson's drug called Mirapex/Pramipexole, as suggested in research in the link above.

      I do know one parent who, independently of my blog, did try Mirapex/Pramipexole but it did not help in his case. This is what he told me:-

      "I did try it at various dosages, but unfortunately I had no success.
      Basically Pramipexole made my son very sleepy but, if given at bedtime, resulted in a restless night after a couple of hours of sleep.
      Other than that I could not see any other effects from Pramipexole.
      Please note that my son always had BIG troubles sleeping so, beside my personal experience, I believe that Pramipexole could be very useful for many."

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  8. Hi Peter
    Have you heard if anyone had tried Emodin or this https://www.neuromodin.com/
    https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/paxmedica-polomar-investigate-emodin/
    is this worth trying ?

    thanks a lot ,
    Kat

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    1. Hi Kat

      There are comments in my blog about Emodin, most recent, but not all.

      If you enter the following in your google search, you will find them:

      emodin "site:epiphanyasd.blogspot.com"

      Then just search on the page that opens. On a PC you press Crtl F and enter "emodin".

      It looks like an interesting supplement. I think one issue raised was it caused GI problems in some.

      Emodin has many reasons why it might be beneficial in some autism. Go ahead and try it.

      There are other products containing Emodin.

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    2. Hi Peter,
      Here is something interesting that may be or may not be a coincidence. There is an A.I. platform called Microbiome Prescription that compares uploaded stool samples to the general population and gives recommendations accordingly.
      Anyway one parent uploaded his son’s sample without mentioning that he has ASD and the platform came back with a recommendation for Bumetanide amongst other things.
      http://autism.microbiomeprescription.com/2023/09/17/an-autistic-childs-microbiome/

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    3. Interesting that bumetanide is there.

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  9. Hi, is there any presteps to ensure GABA is inhibitory or excitatory without using bumetanide trial. Unable to get it without a prescription.

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    1. If there is a negative reaction to a GABA agonist, like a benzodiazepine like Valium, or the Piccamilon supplement, you can determine if GABA is working in reverse. If the response is anxiety/aggression you likely have a bumetanide responder. Then you find a doctor will prescribe
      Bumetanide either at home or abroad.

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  10. I did some reading and seems like apigenin is also a very potent activator of p53, and also helps mitochondrial function by improving biogenesis. Just putting this out for everyone. As per Peter's last post, apigenin also seems to help sound sensitivity, so it's definitely worth a try.

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  11. Aspirin can prevent il-6 from inducing the down regulation of p53 fyi

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5325359/

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    1. I think low dose aspirin is an interesting option.

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    2. Yeah, I think aspirin should be automatically order for expectant mothers who already have a child with ASD. It could help lower the mothers il-6 levels.

      Evaluation of the effectiveness of low-dose aspirin and omega 3 in treatment of asymmetrically intrauterine growth restriction: A randomized clinical trial

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0301211517300039#:~:text=Both%20aspirin%20and%20omega%2D3,only%20for%20achieving%20this%20effect.

      Assessment of interleukin-6, interleukin-8 and interleukin-18 count in the serum of IUGR newborns

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24093539/

      -Stephen

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  12. Dear Peter,

    thank you for your very helpful blog. My son is 11 yo. At ages 4-5 he was better than now in respect to speech, cognition and behaviour. This gradual regression may be due to the emergence of EEG subcharges. But we can not get rid of them by anti-epileptics.

    Recently, I have very tiny response to baclofen (5 mg) but good response to ponstan (250 mg, only 10 days). What could you please advice for further personalized medicine?
    Thank you.

    Ugur from Istanbul

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    1. What was the good response you saw from Ponstan?

      Have you tried NAC (N-acetyl cysteine)?

      How verbal is he? Can he read and write?

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    2. Hi again Peter,

      after starting ponstant, he makes eye contact and is more calm. Awarness is somewhat better.

      Years ago, I tried 600 mg NAC. But no benefit.

      He has e few words and is poor in writing and reading.

      Thank you

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    3. Ugur, if Ponstan provides a clear benefit, you could find the lowest dose that provides this effect, with no side effects. You might find 125 mg achieves this, depending on his weight. This can then be a long-term therapy.

      Ponstan has several modes of action that can be beneficial.

      I suggest you try other therapies with anti-inflammatory effects. There are very many ( Low dose naltrexone, atorvastatin, pentoxifylline, H1 antihistamine etc).

      Since speech is poor it would be wise to at least trial calcium folinate / leucovorin. You could do the blood test and send a plasma sample to the US. (www. fratnow.com)

      Since cognition is affected, it would be wise to make a trial of bumetanide for 4 weeks.

      You could try the mitochondrial supplement popular in the US (SpectrumNeeds).

      You could try promyelinating therapies (Clemastine, NAG (not NAC), ALA etc).

      Some people who have a late regression, or pause in development, may have a genetic issue that only became triggered later in childhood. Since your child has an unusual EEG, it is quite possible he has an ion channel dysfunction (sodium, calcium or potassium). You could do genetic testing (WES or WGS) to try and identify a mutation in one of these ion channels – then you might be able to treat it.

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    4. Thank you Peter for your recomendations.

      I used calcum folinate for one year, no clear benefit.

      I have whole exome sequencing done in 2020. Apparently only one heterozygous mutation in TSH receptor gene.
      Best wishes
      Ugur

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    5. Ugur, since you have treatment resistant EEG activity but no identified channelopathies, you could adopt a wider approach. Potassium bromide has a long history of use in epilepsy and is used in treatment resistant pediatric epilepsy. It also may have a benefit in autism. It takes about 5 weeks to reach its peak level in the blood stream, so you would need patience. Other channel blockers like nicardipine, verapamil and amlodipine would start to work from the first pill, so you would know very quickly if there was a benefit. You can have a differentially expressed gene without a corresponding mutation, so the genetic testing is not conclusive.

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    6. Dear Peter,
      several publications (and your blog) reveal mefenamic acid as a TRP chanel blocker. Would it be possible that the benefit from Ponstan in my child is due to this effect?
      Thank you

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    7. It certainly is possible. There are many modes of action. Nobody can say for sure.

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    8. Hello, Peter, I recently got hold of a box of clemastine from Moldova, Denis had hypoxia at birth, I know that my wife said that the amiotic fluid turned green, or whatever it's called, the problem is that Denis reacted badly to zyrtec aerius and hydroxyzine, all giving strong fits of anger the day after administration, do you think clemastine can also do this job or is it different from the others? I would like to try it? why do you think that aerius and zyrtec give anger, increase serotonin? as clemastina brings it down, we also wanted your opinion, thank you very much for your patience in answering all of us.

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    9. H1 antihistamines can cause side effects in the central nervous system (CNS), even with the newer antihistamines that were designed not to enter the brain. In rare cases they can even cause seizures and nobody is exactly sure why.

      Histamine acts as a neurotransmitter in the brain and it might relate to histamine or just be a side effect from the older secondary effects of these drugs.

      Since Denis has experienced rare side effects from 3 antihistamines in the past, it is certainly possible that there may be a negative reaction to Clemastine. Try with a quarter of a pill and see what happens.

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    10. Uğur, do you know a doctor in Istanbul who will prescribe bumetanide?

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    11. Maybe Dr. Burak Tatli

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