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Friday, 8 November 2024

Clonidine and Guanfacine for ADHD, mast cell activation, sleep disorders, tics and some self-injurious behavior (SIB)

 


Both clonidine and guanfacine were raised recently to me, they have been covered in various earlier posts and in my book. Here is a round-up of the information.

These two drugs are α2A-adrenergic receptor agonists originally used to treat high blood pressure. Subsequently many additional uses of these drugs have been discovered.

I was asked about its use to treat mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS) and the mechanism by which it achieves this effect is interesting.


Calming mast cells – the ones that release histamine during an allergic reaction

Clonidine/guanfacine, as alpha-2 adrenergic agonists, inhibit mast cells primarily by interacting with the central and peripheral nervous systems, leading to a decrease in the release of inflammatory mediators. Its mechanism involves stimulating alpha-2 adrenergic receptors, which in turn suppresses the release of norepinephrine and other neurotransmitters.

In terms of mast cell stabilization, clonidine/guanfacine is thought to reduce intracellular calcium levels and inhibit the degranulation process that releases histamine and other pro-inflammatory substances. Lower intracellular calcium prevents the activation of key signaling pathways that normally trigger mast cell activation and degranulation.

This stabilizing effect helps prevent excessive allergic and inflammatory responses, making clonidine/guanfacine beneficial in conditions where such inhibition is useful.

Clonidine/guanfacine have some calcium channel-blocking properties, though they are not classified as a traditional calcium channel blocker. By indirectly lowering intracellular calcium levels, clonidine/guanfacine inhibit the signaling pathways that lead to mast cell degranulation and the release of inflammatory mediators. The end result is a reduction in cellular excitability and a dampening of the inflammatory response, including mast cell stabilization.

Clearly, you could just go directly to a calcium channel blocker like verapamil.

Clonidine/guanfacine and indeed verapamil are not seen as first line treatments for MCAS but may well be beneficial.

Conventional First-Line Treatments for MCAS

Antihistamines

H1 blockers (e.g., cetirizine, loratadine) to manage allergic-type symptoms like itching, hives, and flushing.

H2 blockers (e.g., famotidine, ranitidine) to control gastrointestinal symptoms and histamine release in the stomach.

Mast Cell Stabilizers

Cromolyn sodium is often considered one of the most effective mast cell stabilizers for MCAS, especially for gastrointestinal symptoms.

Ketotifen, another mast cell stabilizer with antihistamine properties, can also be helpful.

Rupatadine and azelastine are also potentially beneficial as mast cell stabilizers.

Leukotriene Inhibitors

Medications like montelukast can help manage symptoms related to leukotrienes, which are other mediators released by mast cells.

Aspirin

Aspirin can play a role in managing MCAS, particularly in controlling specific symptoms like flushing, hives, and inflammation. Its primary action in MCAS involves inhibiting prostaglandin D2 (PGD2), which is one of the inflammatory mediators released by mast cells and contributes to the vascular symptoms seen in MCAS.

Sleep disorders

Some people with autism do not sleep well.

Clonidine/guanfacine can help some individuals fall asleep faster and stay asleep longer by promoting relaxation and calming overactivity in the brain.

It is sometimes used in pediatric populations, such as children with autism or ADHD, to help with sleep initiation and minimize frequent nighttime awakenings.

Clonidine/guanfacine, being alpha-2 adrenergic agonists, lower the activity of the sympathetic nervous system (the fight-or-flight response).

Clonidine/guanfacine is typically prescribed at a low dose for sleep, as higher doses can lead to daytime drowsiness. Taking clonidine at night, about 30-60 minutes before bed, is common practice.

Guanfacine has a longer half-life than clonidine, which means it provides a more sustained effect throughout the night and may lead to fewer night-time awakenings. This can be particularly useful for individuals who need consistent support for sleep through the night.

Tics

Clonidine/guanfacine have long been used off-label to treat Tourette’s syndrome, which is a tic disorder.

Clonidine/guanfacine can help manage some stereotypical behaviors (repetitive, non-functional behaviors) in individuals with autism, when these behaviors are driven by hyperactivity, impulsivity, or anxiety.

Clonidine/guanfacine helps manage tics by calming the nervous system, modulating norepinephrine release, reducing stress, and helping with impulse control.

This effect has been noted by our reader AW.

Self-injurious behavior (SIB)

Self-injurious behavior (SIB) is usually considered the worst feature of autism. It becomes a learned behavior which can be very hard to extinguish.

Clonidine/guanfacine is on the long list of sometimes effective therapies. Take a note of this!

 

Clonidine as a Treatment of Behavioural Disturbances in Autism Spectrum Disorder: A Systematic Literature Review

Clonidine has a limited evidence base for use in the management of behavioural problems in patients with ASD. Most evidence originates from case reports. Given the paucity of pharmacological options for addressing challenging behaviours in ASD patients, a clonidine trial may be an appropriate and cost-effective pharmaceutical option for this population.

Beneficial Effects of Clonidine on Severe Self-Injurious Behavior in a 9-Year-Old Girl with Pervasive Developmental Disorder

ADHD

ADHD is very commonly diagnosed these days.

The genes involved in ADHD, autism, bipolar and schizophrenia are overlapping, so it is not surprising that many people are now being diagnosed with both ADHD and autism.

What I find very odd is that people with ADHD line up for medical treatment, but most people with comorbid autism think there cannot be a medical treatment for their autism because it is just how their brain is “wired-up differently.” It is hard to reconcile these views - both conditions are clearly treatable.

Most ADHD treatments are stimulants. Medications like methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta) and amphetamine-based drugs (Adderall, Vyvanse) are typically considered first-line treatments for ADHD. They work by increasing levels of dopamine and norepinephrine in the brain, which help improve focus, attention, and impulse control in people with ADHD.

Not all individuals with ADHD can tolerate stimulants, and in some cases, they may experience unwanted side effects like anxiety, sleep disturbances, or increased irritability.

The most common non-stimulant options are Clonidine and Guanfacine. They does not directly increase dopamine or norepinephrine but instead reduces norepinephrine release, promoting a calming effect.

Atomoxetine (Strattera) is a selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (NRI), which increases norepinephrine in the brain by blocking its reuptake.

After years of off-label use in by 2010 both clonidine and guanfacine were FDA approved for use in ADHD.

 

Conclusion

As I mentioned to one reader, we should take note that both clonidine and guanfacine are approved for use in children (with ADHD) and so there is plenty of safety information and dosage guidance.

The effective dose for MCAS, sleep disorders, tics and SIB may well vary from person to person but the safe boundaries are well established from ADHD.

In general, guanfacine tends to be better tolerated than clonidine.

AW might note that guanfacine can cause sleep problems, including insomnia or vivid dreams.

Here is a useful list I found:

Common Side Effects:

Sedation/Drowsiness: Like clonidine, guanfacine can cause drowsiness, especially during the initial stages of treatment or when the dose is increased.

Fatigue: Many people report feeling fatigued or tired when starting guanfacine, which can affect daytime functioning.

Low Blood Pressure (Hypotension): Guanfacine also lowers blood pressure, potentially leading to dizziness or light-headedness, particularly when standing up quickly.

Dry Mouth: This is another common side effect, similar to clonidine, and may cause discomfort.

Headache: Some people experience headaches, especially when starting treatment.

Stomach Problems (e.g., abdominal pain, constipation): Gastrointestinal side effects can occur in some individuals, such as constipation or stomach discomfort.

Irritability and Mood Swings: In some cases, guanfacine may cause irritability or emotional instability.

Less Common but Serious Side Effects:

Bradycardia (slow heart rate): As with clonidine, guanfacine can cause a slow heart rate, which could be concerning for individuals with underlying heart issues.

Rebound Hypertension: Discontinuing guanfacine too abruptly can cause rebound hypertension (a sudden increase in blood pressure), so it should be tapered gradually under a healthcare provider’s guidance.

Sleep disturbances: In some cases, though less common than with clonidine, guanfacine can cause sleep problems, including insomnia or vivid dreams.





16 comments:


  1. Clonidine increases Sec IgA fyi
    It appears to be low in ASD kids

    The Alteration of Salivary Immunoglobulin A in Autism Spectrum Disorders

    https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.669193/full

    Release of secretory immunoglobulin A by submandibular gland via β adrenergic receptor stimulation

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003996921001722

    -Stephen

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    1. Interesting! We have always had low secretory IgA on every gut test. Thanks for posting.

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  2. A big shout out to Quercetin, I had mast cell activation disorder and took a couple grams (with Bromelain) a day, 2 years later I stopped taking it and the symptoms haven't come back 5 years on.

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    1. I am also a fan of quercetin, it is beneficial for a wide range of conditions. You do not need an expensive version.

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  3. Hi Peter and fellow readers,
    My son has just completed the FRAT testing and tested positive for the binding antibodies. The test report does not have a range but his number was 3.5. I do not know if this is a particularly high level of binding antibodies but he has a history of language disorder and cognitive delay so it makes sense that he may have low folate in the central nervous system. We are getting compounded leucovorin suspension and in the meantime, I have started a dose of about 15 mg of folinic acid, to which he responds with irritability and aggression, like you seem to have experienced with Monty. I do think there is better language and cognition, even at this relatively smaller dose. I gave with Taurnie tonight and it was a tiny bit better, but I am worried that this may be a problem when we start the megadose with leucovorin. Wondering if other readers have discovered any tips. It’s been a while since you posted about folate receptor antibodies and maybe someone has discovered a solution in the meantime. I know the major researchers say that the aggression and irritability are likely to be temporary but I don’t want him to act aggressively since he is an older and larger teen. Thank you.

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    1. EDFW, someone told me one of these doctors now suggests short term use of an antipsychotic drug like Risperidone until the brain adjusts to the increase in folate. I have no idea if it works. Another strategy is to start very low and slowly increase the dose.

      For a teenager aggression is a bigger problem than lack of speech, as you will be well aware.

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    2. Titrate up and down slowly. Irritability only happens when you raise or lower the dose.
      A speculative cause is that the body has to adjust its receptors for the increased/decreased amounts of neurotransmittors that are produced in response to folinic acid, and that takes a couple of days.
      /L

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    3. I have found Nrf-1 activators helpful.

      PQQ
      Levocarnitine
      Mefenamic acid
      Fluconazole

      However, if you have immune system issues you need to treat that first.

      -Stephen

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  4. Thank you Peter. Our doctor started him on a low dose of Aripiprazole at the same time so that is very encouraging. It improved mood and happiness after the first or second dose so we will see what happens when we start the leucovorin.

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    1. EDFW, keep us informed as to whether the Aripiprazlole does solve the aggression side effect of leucovorin and of course how long you need to take it.

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  5. Peter, has anyone ever mentioned the use of creatine before?

    Creatine Transporter, Reduced in Colon Tissues From Patients With Inflammatory Bowel Diseases, Regulates Energy Balance in Intestinal Epithelial Cells, Epithelial Integrity, and Barrier Function

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7891846/

    -Stephen

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  6. Stephen, yes creatine has come up before.

    There are indeed 3 types of creatine deficiency leading to mental retardation/ID and/or autism.

    https://www.epiphanyasd.com/2013/11/creatine-sub-types-of-autism-is-affects.html

    Creatine is also prescribed to kids with low muscle tone and indeed older people with low muscle mass.

    Most creatine is used by body builders. It is known to be very safe and it does indeed help you build muscle. We have it at home.

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    1. Thank you Peter.

      Just thought I would share this too while I am at it. Dr. Adams will be taking about neurotoxins next Monday. Anyone can join. I posted the zoom link.

      New Discovery: We have now discovered a total of 32 toxic metabolites from gut bacteria and yeast that are significantly elevated in children with autism. There is a wide variation among different ASD children, with different children having different toxins, but most children have about 7 toxic metabolites at extremely elevated levels (above all typical children in our study).

      All of these toxins affect either serotonin or dopamine neurotransmitters, and thus can have a major effect on cognition, attention, mood, behavior, and sleep.

      https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZckfumupz0oHtHM81CklenwWGSdax4E-7J-#/registration

      -Stephen

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  7. Peter, I decided to reread your book. You mentioned how NAC stopped the stereotypy. I have also found the same for the Jak inhibitor Cibinqo.

    Stephen

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    1. Stephen, that is very interesting and I think it makes sense that this kind of immunomodulatory drug is beneficial to some people with autism.

      What other benefits do you see?

      It is very expensive.

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    2. This is for a 7 year old boy with Profound Autism with folate receptor autoantibodies and low il10.

      Jak inhibitors pros-

      Increased cognition
      100% potty training
      Decreased food anxiety
      Stops running back and forth
      Stops stimming

      Cons-
      Increased aggression with Leucovorin
      Weight gain
      Stimming will come back once drug wears off
      Increased infections
      One hell of a withdrawal period if stop

      *Learned behavior will stay even if the drug is stop. I.e. still 100% potty trained
      *no increase in language like rapamycin or itraconazole

      -Stephen




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